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Kirsten Traynor <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 22 Aug 2018 22:50:51 -0400
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To clarify on Dick's quote and statement

" " However, when I assumed the editorship Randy Oliver required that all changes be cleared with him."

Any author who does not insist on a policy like Randys is crazy.  I will not write for any magazines again because of what editors have done to turn perfectly good English and perfectly good facts into bad English and nonsense in place of facts without giving me the slightest courtesy of a proof like real peer reviewed publications do.  As an author I am insulted when I submit an article and suddenly find in print some crap that does not say what I said in the original yet has my name on it as author.  As far as I am concerned high and mighty editors can and have often done much to wreck many publications.  The net result is I no longer am willing to take the risk of authoring anything for any publication which is not peer reviewed.

Dick"

Hi Dick,

It's somewhat misleading when the first part of my statement was clipped, where I explicitly state "The reason the disclaimer was added was because with all authors I can have a discussion about article edits and changes and we can come to an agreement." 

To clarify, I always send authors the edited article with ALL changes tracked. I suggest they put my edits into their own words. If they disagree with my edits, I am willing to listen to their reasoning and usually we can find a solution that pleases both writer and editor. Readers expect editing for clarity, readability and accuracy in content and that is what my editorial changes strive to achieve. I fully concur the author should be able to see and sign off on any changes. 

However, Randy and I disagree on certain scientific points and we can not reach an agreement. This is exactly the reason why we added the disclaimer. His articles are not peer reviewed and they have not been edited the way other articles in the journal are edited. The articles are Randy's interpretation of data and he does not wish to accept some of my suggested edits to modify some statements. We simply interpret the same scientific results differently. To clarify to readers that his articles are thus not edited we added the disclaimer, which Randy approved. When no agreement can be reached between editors and authors, authors usually only get the right to approve the editorial changes or withdraw the article. His writings are much read by beekeepers and contain lots of excellent information, so this--as you can see in Randy's own response--is the solution we both agreed to. 

Sincerely,
Kirsten S. Traynor
Editor
American Bee Journal

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