Well, that changes everything. One possibility is the Camden Iron Works (NJ), founded in 1845. Here's a plan map of their factory, surveyed, coincidentally, in 1884.
https://www.philageohistory.org/rdic-images/view-image.cfm/HGSv19.1830-1831
Cregg
T. Cregg Madrigal, Ph.D.
Environmental Specialist 3 - Archaeology
New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection
Municipal Finance and Construction Element
Bureau of Environmental, Engineering, and Permitting
Mail Code 401-03D
401 E. State St.
PO Box 420
Trenton, NJ 08625-0420
609-633-1170
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From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Keith Doms
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:00 PM
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Subject: Re: Cast iron pipe
Actually, I curse my dyslexia, the letters are "CIW". I am assuming that it should be C... Iron Works. The joint is somewhere underground and not currently accessible. It may even be under the modern road. It is assumed that the race was culverted when the paving of the road under which it passes. From what I read the greater Philadelphia area was a major producer of cast iron pipes until the 1880s when production centers moved south and west. Thus far, I have not been able to locate any list of foundries from the region. I did see a listing for the Chattanooga Iron Works but the record indicated that that firm only produced frying pans and small goods.
Keith R. Doms
Newlin Grist Mill
Site Manager
219 S. Cheyney Rd.
Glen Mills, PA 19342
(610) 459-2359
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From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Skiles
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:23 PM
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Keith,
Are you absolutely sure that it's CWI [C.W.I. ?] and not CWT ? Have you ever seen how the lengths of pipe are joined (bell & spigot, butted,
flange-and-bolt) ??
Perhaps the easiest approach to identification is an archival approach.
For such a major project (a 30" water main would be considered a "major"
project, even in Texas) there were doubtlessly copious records in the books of the governmental authority (county / city ?) who actually bought-and-paid-for installation of the pipe. On such projects, it is not uncommon to find recorded lengthy discussions prior to the project over which particular pipe/manufacturer would be best, then there's the bidding records (usually replete with historical information on the type of pipe / manufacturer testimonials / comparative testing results / pertaining to usually several bidders). I would go down to the local-temple-of-justice (courthouse / municipal records building) and give a quick perusal through the purchasing / bidding records for the water projects for the period you suspect the pipe was laid (if they have not all been incinerated in past courthouse fires, like a lot of them have been across the South where we stupidly built wooden courthouses during earlier settlement).
SOMETIMES the archival approach in local records may give surprisingly quick-and-easy answers (for example, I was once working on trying to identify various fragmentary construction artifacts from a previous Texas courthouse covered by the modern one ... quite a problem until I found the record book of the Commissioners Court where every single item that was purchased for the old courthouse had been tediously itemized as to cost and supplier).
Bob Skiles
On 2/23/2017 7:31 AM, Keith Doms wrote:
> Unfortunately, my copy of American Iron is awol. Can anyone out there check the index to give me a clue please?
>
> Keith R. Doms
> Newlin Grist Mill
> Site Manager
> 219 S. Cheyney Rd.
> Glen Mills, PA 19342
> (610) 459-2359
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> Patrick Martin
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:19 PM
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> Subject: Re: Cast iron pipe
>
> Must be some ironworks with CW name. Don't have resources at hand out on a road trip, but I would start with Bob Gordon's American Iron as a key source.
> PEM
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:34 AM, Keith Doms <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone come across cast iron pipe with the Letters "CWI" molded on it? We have a 30" id. Pipe with "CWI 1884". Any thoughts about the manufacture?
>>
>> Keith R. Doms
>> Newlin Grist Mill
>> Site Manager
>> 219 S. Cheyney Rd.
>> Glen Mills, PA 19342
>> (610) 459-2359
>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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