>
> >Now, it is true that clothianidin is one particular nitroguanidine
> (E-1(2-Chlor-1,3-thiazol-5-ylmethyl)-3-methyl-2-nitroguanidine).  But is
> that the particular nitroguanidine that thiamethoxam degrades into?


First the beekeeper concern was about imidicloprid.  You yourself recently
stated that your bees were doing fine next to thiamethoxam.

The current bete noir of beekeepers appears to be clothianidin (Poncho).

It is hard for researchers to answer beekeepers' concerns if they keep
moving the target!

So Stan, which product would you suggest that I test?  I only want to go
through the hard work of running a large field trial if beekeepers are going
to accept the results.  I will send the protocol around in advance to make
sure that everyone will buy in.  I solicit your help.

Randy Oliver

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