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To those on BEE-L:
I am sorry for the cross post, but since I felt obligated to replying to to
on the Organicslist for others can be aware of the happening, I am also
posting  it here for your awareness also.


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Subject:  [BioBee] So long, farewell
Date: Saturday 27 November 2004 11:35 pm
From:  Barry Birkey <barry@b...>
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BioBee  was originally started in Dec. of 2000 in response to a  growing
interest in  small cell discussion. At that time, Dee Lusby was  very active
on the list  and all angles of her methodology and theory  were discussed and
debated.  Now having four years of discussion and  experience behind us, it
appears  there is nothing much new to discuss.  Dee has since moved on and
created  her own list that is more narrow in  tolerance in regards to
beekeeping  practices.

Reply:
The  only thing I have done is stood on ZERO HIVE TREATMENTS AND ARTIFICIAL
FOOD AS NO GOOD FOR LONG TERM SUPPORT OF OUR HONEYBEES. YOU WEAN BEES OFF  OF

DOPES AND ARTIFICIAL FOODS ARE FOR SHORT HAUL ONLY. NOT YEAR AFTER  YEAR,
AFTER
STEALING ALL OF THE YEARS FOOD THE BEES HAVE MADE. THEY  DESERVE THIER FAIR
SHARE  OF THE REWARDS, AND DOPES IN A HIVE ARE  KILLING OUR INDUSTRY.

IF THIS IS NARROW MINDED, THEN SO BE IT!

Also when BioBee started..............it was started with the  understanding
that it would be a clean list with not helping  beekeepers to use dopes, and
then  essential oils and others things  were allowed.

The only thing I/we have done is take our bees backon a  smaller natural
cell
size they were upped from with enlargement of  combs starting over 100 years
ago, and at the same time said no  cheating on chemicals, drugs, essential
oils,  FGMO, and acids,  fungicids, etc or what be it for internal hive
control.

If I am narrow  then so be it.

There is nothing wrong with rotating in smaller combs and  working the
misdrawn to the sides/perifery of the broodnest and then  up and out.

We need food in this country and for our world and bees to  do it with, and
somehow it has to be clean, and on that I WILL
STAND........................................


Barry continues:  I  feel we have come to a place where there is a lot of
rehashing of  old  discussions and these now tend to get splintered up by
cross  posting to  various bee lists. It's clear that the BioBee email list
has  run its course  and is now time to say goodbye. I will be closing  the
list down within a  week. I am putting my time and effort into  expanding the
BeeSource website  and Bulletin Board where you will still  be able to discuss
biological  beekeeping in a forum  there.

Reply:
I am sorry to hear of BioBee moving on, I wished they  could have changed to
just talk clean beekeeping and beekeeping in  general on how to manage
colonies.Also how to use the products of the  colony and not waste them for
the  good
of all, for from the propolis  much of our medicine started. From honey and
from pollen much too for  health. From learning about hive construction, much
in
math relative  to navigation and transportation and home building, was given
to  man.

Sincerely,

Dee A. Lusby
Small Cell Commercial Beekeeper
Tucson, Arizona
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OrganicBeekeepers/_
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OrganicBeekeepers/)

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