> From: "Lipscomb, Al" <[log in to unmask]>

> Why would movement have anything to do with the signaling of odor?

Why wouldn't it? You follow with one example where scent and movement are
observed together. Why not also with the dance? Odor and air movement have
always gone hand in hand. You won't pick up a floral scent near as much on a
still day as you would on a windy day, provided you are downwind from the
odor.

>That
> is we see bees using scents to communicate when they fan their glands at the
> entrance to the hive. Why do we want to belive that to transmit odor they
> run
> around in a circle?

Why do dogs and other animals run around in circles upon meeting each other?
To pick up on a *stronger* scent.

> In a dark hive the "waggle" seems a good way to get the attention of other
> bees.

I don't think there is any disagreement on this aspect amongst
researchers/scientists. I hope I will be corrected from them if I am wrong.
The question is, what does the bee want to bring attention to. Some sort of
cryptic compass direction to the source or attention to the odor of the
source? Or maybe a little of one and a lot of the other. It's interesting to
note that tests done by Dr. Wenner and assoc. "show that recruits do indeed
take too long to find the flower source for a direct flight." See Figure 2.
http://www.beesource.com/pov/wenner/abjoct1992.htm

Regards,
Barry