Since Danny Weaver is mentioned, I should point out that Danny first reported his success back at the Apimondia in Vancouver in 1999. Aaron and I visited Danny after a Galaveston meeting years later and worked some of his bees with him. Here are a few random hits for our archives uisng various ketwords. Oddly, the most obvious words gave zero results. I used Navasota, Vancouver Apimondia, and a few others. https://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=ind2205&L=BEE-L&P=R1759&X=O786344F71A0C69E372 https://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=ind0410E&L=BEE-L&P=R742&X=O786344F71A0C69E372 https://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=ind1801&L=BEE-L&P=R24240&X=O786344F71A0C69E372 https://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=ind1307&L=BEE-L&P=R6244&X=O786344F71A0C69E372 *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html