> So when we use blanket statements  like "we use too much pesticide"  I think we do ourselves and huge intellectual dishonesty,  and an even worse one to our listeners.  

I don't think many informed people would agree with this. Ideally, one would prefer no pesticides and no pests. The idea with IPM is to use only as much as needed to control pests, not blanket the crops without even evaluating. I think growers would rather use less but more effective product. 

Consumers in some markets show a preference for organic produce if they can get it. In the real world, pesticides are needed to protect crops, to protect investments, etc. But if less were needed, time and money would be saved. 

What I object to is the whole thing has turned to a pitched battle between the various factions who cannot seem to look through the other's eyes. Even if you disagree with someone, you need to try to see from their viewpoint in order to know how to proceed. 

PLB

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