> If we point out the newsgroup is intended for hobby beekeeping and
> the mailinglist is more intended for bee biology, the argument is valid
> for a rec. (recreational) group, not for a sci. (science) group.
>
  Excellent point.
 
> > HOWEVER, be aware that the reader-base might not be there.  I suspect this
> > will, by default, limit it to a group along the lines of alt.beekeeping,
> > which is limiting in itself, being in the alt. net, which is not carried
> > by many sites.  Why might it be limited to an alt. group?  Because of the
> > voting majority needed to create a group in the "main" Usenet news groups.
>
> We should try anyway (assuming the consensus is to try to start a newsgroup).
> If the vote for a rec. (sci. or whatever) fails, we could create an alt.
> group with not too much trouble (mention the group idea on alt.config,
> listen to the general consensus such as a better name and create the group)
> and most sites that carry alt. groups will carry it.  On the other hand
> we shouldn't create an alt. group first, while trying for a rec. group
> since many system managers will vote against a rec. group if the alt.
> group already exists (esp. if just created), since it is essentially
> impossible to get rid of an alt. group.
>
> > Be aware that for a group to be created, the proposal must pass with a
> > 100 vote margin of "yes" over "no" votes.  Can we manage to drum up that
> > kind of support, and more, to balance any "no" votes that we might get?
>
> There are thousands of amateur beekeepers throughout the world.  Certainly
> thousands have access to Usenet.  Many may already be there yet don't
> know about this mailing list, they would certainly welcome a group.
> Things that shoot a group down:  Is there a better similar group (no),
> is there sufficient interest (I think so), is there a maillist (this
> could be troublesome, but we can point out the traffic and intent of this
> list)
>
> -Mike
 
Mike you are on the ball. I'll wait on the alt. How do we all begin the
creation of the rec. group. IMHO rec. sounds the best.
Adam
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