>TIM said which was surprising as carniolons are not known for wintering in large clusters, which they didn't,

True I have Italian descendants, that do fine.  I got some carniolons that will use the three boxes, but for the most part its a waste of time, so I have switched them down to two boxes, I got them for a different project that I will try this year with the better queens.     mike Syracuse n.y.

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