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Date: | Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:28:37 -0500 |
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I agree with both Peter and Randy. Our own paper shows the presence of
Nosema and a variety of viruses in the strongest colonies in apiaries
affected by CCD. But, eventually, most of these 'strong' colonies also
collapsed. Our control bee operation in NW MT, with NO history at all of CCD had no
detectable Nosema, very little virus of any kind. We've been misquoted
repeatedly about this. We did not say that healthy colonies had high titers
of Nosema and virus, we said the strongest colonies in CCD apiaries, as
defined in our paper as the most populous colonies had an assortment of
pathogens. Our true controls had no Nosema and the only detected virus was low
levels of sac brood.
We did find an interesting succession of virus/Nosema levels in the time
series sampling of a collapsing colony (samples taken over a period of
weeks).
One of the problems reviewers had with our paper was that the Nosema virus
levels in bees from the remnant bee populations of fully collapsed
colonies more closely resembled those of the strongest colonies (not necessarily
healthy colonies) in the same CCD affected apiaries, than the levels in
collapsing colonies, where Nosema and virus levels (and virus diversity) were
higher. In other words, during the process of collapse was where the
pathogens really came on strong. The fact that the bees left in a hive after a
collapse looked more like the best looking (not necessarily healthy)
colonies did not surprise us. These bees were very young. They could have been
resistant - reason they didn't leave, weren't dead; or just so young that
the pathogen loads hadn't had time to build up..
Bottom line, all of the relevant data was derived from colonies in the
process of collapse. And, it didn't surprise us at all to see pathogens in
colonies that looked better - especially when many of these eventually
collapsed.
And as Randy mentioned, we speculated that the really sick bees weren't
available for sampling - having flown off.
Jerry
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