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>Want to contact Dale Randy? Happy to arrange?
Yes, please.
> >" The Collation Against Bayer alleges that the start of sales of
> imidacloprid & clothianidin coincided with the occurrence of large scale
> bee
> deaths in many European & American countries"
>
So did the election of George W Bush.
The neonic hypothesis doesn't jibe with the details. Please note the
ribosomal breakdown being a marker for CCD in Reed Johnson's recent CCD
analysis. Not what we'd see from neonicotinoid toxicity.
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> >Bob Harrison comment:
> Maybe David Fischer will explain to Randy why beekeepers have to sue to see
> certain Bayer studies?
The study that NRDC sued to see had been publicly published for all to see.
> >Can you get Dale, Stan, Gene, David H. and myself a look at those Bayer
> studies
> the EPA is supposed to have?
>
The Honey Bee Advisory Board has access to all those studies. I have also
read them all. Most all are in the public domain. However, a doubter might
suspect the Bayer is hiding something else, but I cannot imagine why they
would take the risk, as the eventual fallout after discovery would not be
worth it.
>
> >Dale suspects most of his losses , as well as many of those that are
> listed as
> CCD causes in the bee industry, will eventually be traced to pesticides"
>
So does Bob Harrison. So what does that prove? Neither have any hard data
to support that I've seen.
Randy Oliver
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