I agree Bill, in northern MN they have had close to 4 feet of snow in April in the Arrowhead with spring a long way off yet. In this "post" global warming period we all may be worrying about a short summer and long winters. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-missing-sunspots-is-this-the-big-chill- 1674630.html This following link references Anthony Watts wattsupwiththat blog which the science inclined will enjoy that I included below. http://www.sitnews.us/BillSteigerwald/042209_steigerwald.html http://wattsupwiththat.com/ http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25401759-5000117,00.html *********************************************** The BEE-L mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html