>>Wasn't there someone who bred them to the point where he could handle them in a T-shirt, at least sometimes? Yes, Barry Sergeant. I was also very impressed by his report and photos. Here is how he does it (be sure to copy and paste the entire link): http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Pw_hL3XkazQJ:www.beesource.com/pov/ahb/sergeant.htm+beekeeper+Barry+Sergeant+South+Africa&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us Waldemar ****************************************************** * Full guidelines for BEE-L posting are at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm * ******************************************************