Hi to all on BEE-L

Mark and Bob have been writing:
Give us just one study that has been done to prove any of
this capensis idea.

Let us try to force the release of all data about the
subject which the Tucson Bee lab is sitting on.

 We hear one person suggest this idea and you talk as if it
is fact. i feel the usda labs will be in for a rough road
if they think the scare tatic will work again on this
african bee story.

This is the place you are missing the point. Dr. Hoffman IS
the head of the USDA Tucson Bee Lab in charge of the
Africanized bee research.
Her statement represents the labs views.

Reply:
Okay, This tread has expanded from Allen Dick giving a
report to an exchange of data Mr Bob Harrison is expressing
his views on from what he heard in a presentation given by
Dr Hoffman at the ABF meeting in Ga concerning the state of
honeybees kept in Arizona.

Therefore before this goes any further, request therefore a
FORMAL SHOW CAUSE concerning ACTUAL Capensis bees being in
Arizona and especially S. Arizona, not limited to but to
include the following information:

1. Where, when and how by actual sampling this data was
first accomplished.

2. How were the samples processed to reach this conclusion.

3. Who did the back-up analysis as to where, when and how
(see #1 above).

4. How did the sampling prove it was an *AHB* side of
so-called africanization and not the *European* side of
africanization as each mating and sub-family is seperate.

5. What proof is shown that capensis *traits* in this
instance is a bad thing and not an actual good thing to
have, especially in lieu of the fact that commercial
beekeepers are already using same for well over more than
one decade.

6. What proof is show that capensis *traits* cannot be bred
in conjunction with other traits of the honeybee in
commercial management.

So far, all I have read is opinion and reporting of a
presentation made at a national meeting of the ABF. No
meetings have been held nor presentations made to any known
associations to me in Arizona concerning this subject
matter and it's detriments.

Dr Hoffman will and is being asked to formally present data
at the next upcoming SABA (Southern Arizona Beekeepers
Metting-representing all beekeepers in Southern Arizona in
a formal show cause request.)

I am glad that Bob Harrison has brought this information to
our attention. He is to be applauded for his detail in
reporting on this matter and his own personal views on the
matter.

However, now what is needed is proof, if any.

Sincerely submitted, with copies duly forwarded to those
concerned.

Regards,

Dee A. Lusby, President
Southern Arizona Beekeepers Associaton
Tucson, Arizona




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