Bob & Liz wrote:
> for years Tobacco knocks down varroa and is a excellent IPM method. Dr. R
> knows also as uses the method for his tests. It would be interesting to see
> if colonies would be alive after four years with only the FGMO. I suspect we
> will be hearing from Dr. R when he reads this post.

I doubt if we will be hearing from DrR. Most of the adherents to FGMO
migrated to another list. It is interesting reading some of the posts in
that group. They mirror the comments of the original threads. Some
successes and some failures. And if the fogger has been discontinued and
we are back to saturated ropes, we have almost gone full circle.

Bob, your comment on tobacco smoke is similar to the questions raise on
the method from the origional discussions. As well as the comment on
controls. It is also interesting to note the number of hives that die
from "other" causes not associated with Varroa when FGMO is used.

The problem with FGMO is it wraps itself in the mantel of science but
with tests, as you noted, that leave a lot of questions which are never
answered. When FGMO is tested by independent researchers, it always
comes up short. In some cases disasterously so. And it seems every time
it does, a new application method is developed.

Bill Truesdell
Bath, ME