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Pam, Thanks for all of the info about billing.  I have been trying to
find a way to do this for quite some time and have not been able to.  I
was interested in your process of getting a standing order for an LC
visit.  Can you explain how you did that?  Did you get an order  from
all of the docs at your hospital, OBs and Peds?  Thanks,  Sue Gehrman

Susan Gehrman RN, IBCLC, CCE
Battle Creek Health System
300 North Ave.
Battle Creek, Michigan 49016

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>>> [log in to unmask] 1/15/2007 3:13 PM >>>
Brenda:  We bill outpatients - now, if I only had space to see the
moms...but 
that's another issue.  We really don't do any advertising.  It's mostly
word of 
mouth or a mom just shows up wanting to be seen.  The hospital I work
in is 
part of a large corporation.  I contacted our corporate people a couple
of 
years ago about the feasibility of billing both inpatients and
outpatients.  I was 
given billing numbers and a fee structure - our fees are based on time.
 We bill 
$53 for a Level I visit of 20 minutes or less, $105 for a Level II
visit of 20-45 
minutes, and $210 for a Level III visit which is anything over 45
minutes.  We 
all know how long a visit that involves a feeding is.  Most of our
visits are 
Level III billings, and do include any equipment except pump kits.  We

currently do not rent pumps or do any kind of retail business.  One of
our 
techs does my billing for me.  She is also kind enough to do the
billing after the 
visit.  All she asks is that I make a copy of the mom's driver's
license and her 
insurance card, write down the visit level and make sure there is a
doctor's 
order in the chart.  I work under a standing order, which saves the mom
from 
having to stop at the doctor's office and get a prescription and saves
the 
office staff from having to fax an order over to me. This saves mom
from 
having to sit in outpatient admitting for who knows how long with a
screaming, 
hungry baby.  She can come right up to my office.  I very rarely have a
mom 
tell me that her insurance would not cover a LC visit - I tell them
when I set 
up her appointment to check with her insurance.  For any mom who will
not be 
covered by insurance, the visit is free.
I almost had Corporate convinced that we should also bill for inpatient

lactation visits, but then they decided that LC visits were part of the
nurses' 
education at the bedside and wouldn't allow it.  We are looking into
billing in a 
situation where mom has been discharged, but is seeing Lactation when
she 
comes in to see her SCN baby.  I can some days spend quite a bit of
time with 
what is technically an outpatient SCN mom and we are not considering
these 
billable visits.
Hope this helps.

Pam Hirsch, BSN,RN,IBCLC
Clinical Lead, Lactation Services
Advocate Good Shepherd Hospital
Barrington, IL   USA

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