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LISTSERV 17.02024-03-19T11:41:54ZShauntee Henry2024-03-18T08:58:01-04:002024-03-18T08:58:01-04:00Re: Further musings and commercialisation of breastfeedinghttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;ce734205.2403CHi Pamela,<br><br>I see a lot of moms in a forum I’m a part of ask for breastfeeding and other advice from other mothers and never consider a lactation specialist. I don’t know about the UK, but here in the US it is difficult to access that support without insurance, and even then only IBCLCs can accept insurance. Counselors are basically only out of pocket. [...]Pamela Morrison2024-03-18T09:48:55+00:002024-03-18T09:48:55+00:00Further musings and commercialisation of breastfeedinghttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;c53fa19d.2403CPamela Morrison <pamelamorrisonibclc@gmail.com><br>09:32 (13 minutes ago)<br>to Lactation<br>Liz<br><br>Thank you for sharing the IBJ article about commercialisation and<br>co-modification of breastfeeding in the UK. I found it horribly<br>fascinating. One aspect which jumped out at me, being conspicuous by its<br>absence, was that though these British mothers went scouring the internet<br>for all manner of breastfeeding help and 'stuff'/paraphernalia, not one of<br>them thought to look for any help from the very people who could have<br>seamlessly guided them through the confusion of conflicting and<br>overwhelming information - IBCLCs or breastfeeding counsellors. I've just<br>googled "Breastfeeding help, UK" [...]Elizabeth Brooks2024-03-17T06:32:25-04:002024-03-17T06:32:25-04:00Re: Musing about pumping and over-productionhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;a0f9d36a.2403CJulie, you do not muse alone.<br><br>This lovely open-access article (link below) from 2020 discusses the impact<br>of commercial influence and persuasion techniques, and parents' experiences<br>with lactation ... and what gadgets and products they felt they "had to<br>have."<br><br>https://internationalbreastfeedingjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13006-020-00264-1#:~:text=Many%20of%20aspects%20of%20our,our%20obsession%20with%20celebrity%20culture<br>.Julie Tardos2024-03-16T21:06:01-07:002024-03-16T21:06:01-07:00Further musingshttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;8d3ebabe.2403COf course, we would have to include IBCLCs and breastfeeding educators in<br>that list.<br><br>Plus all these breastfeeding apps available now. How *did* mothers manage<br>to breastfeed before apps?!<br><br>Julie TardosJulie Tardos2024-03-15T21:28:45-07:002024-03-15T21:28:45-07:00Musing about pumping and over-productionhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;175932cd.2403CI was musing about the problem of mothers pumping so often that they give<br>themselves over-production. It seems to me that what we're seeing is the<br>commodification of breastfeeding.<br><br>When you formula feed, there is an obvious commodity, and someone's making<br>money off of it.<br><br>When you breastfeed, who makes money? Pump companies have stepped into the<br>profit void, making money off what could have been free or cheap. [...]Marsha Walker2024-03-15T10:17:39-04:002024-03-15T10:17:39-04:00Measuring nipples for breast shield sizinghttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;747b2958.2403CWhile definitive research on flange sizing has yet to be conducted, an<br>article in Clinical Lactation might be of interest on this topic. See:<br>Higgins, A.F. (2022). Flange sizing recommendations for frequent breast<br>pump use. Clinical Lactation, 13(3), 159-169.<br><br>This study is interesting but the authors are funded by Medela.<br>Sakalidis VS, Ivarsson L, Haynes AG, Jäger L, Schärer-Hernández NG,<br>Mitoulas LR, Prime DK. Breast shield design impacts milk removal dynamics<br>during pumping: A randomized controlled non-inferiority trial. Acta Obstet<br>Gynecol Scand. 2020 Nov;99(11):1561-1567. [...]Nikki Lee2024-03-15T08:23:32-05:002024-03-15T08:23:32-05:00Flange sizinghttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;50ce31c4.2403CDear Lactnet Friends:<br><br>Jeanette Mesite Frem and her colleague gave a poster presentation at the recent<br>ABM conference about their research on flange sizing.<br><br>Jeanette has made flanges, pumps and gadgets her niche in the lactation care<br>world and a thorough job she has done too!! She has met with personnel at<br>various pump companies seeking to improve available options for our clients,<br>and offers both in-person and on-line education. Her website is<br>BabiesinCommon.com [...]Janet Business2024-03-14T09:29:54-07:002024-03-14T09:29:54-07:00Measuring Nipples for breast shield sizinghttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;5818cc1c.2403BThere is a research project which should be publishing results soon.<br><br>But more importantly- where did the size 24 come from? Where is the research?<br><br>As I understand it, a man in the 1800s developed a pump and made the piece 24 mm. When the first big electric pumps were developed, from what I understand the pump develops (Ameda etc) stayed with that number. Was it baby mouth circumference. I have no idea where 24 came from?<br>Now that we have so many women pumping with electric pumps, some exclusively, with all sorts of results, pain, damage to nipples etc. [...]Ingrid Tilstra2024-03-14T14:36:39+00:002024-03-14T14:36:39+00:00Re: Measuring Nipples for breast shield sizinghttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;4fd5984f.2403BMedela is a WHO Code violator - no one should be turning to them for breastfeeding information, especially LCs.... Ingrid IBCLC, LLLL On Mar. 14, 2024, at 5:35 a.m., Donna More <donnajeanmore@GMAIL.COM> wrote: Hello all. Can someone please direct me to research support the current trend to measure nipples for breast shield sizing? Apart from the recent Medela webinar, I can not find anything. Thank you. Donna *********************************************** Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html To reach list owners: lactnet-request@community.lsoft.com Mail all list management commands to: listserv@community.lsoft.com COMMANDS: 1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail 2. [...]Donna More2024-03-14T08:35:17-04:002024-03-14T08:35:17-04:00Measuring Nipples for breast shield sizinghttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;c09bb9a5.2403BHello all. Can someone please direct me to research support the current trend to measure nipples for breast shield sizing? Apart from the recent Medela webinar, I can not find anything.<br>Thank you. Donna Margaret Wills2024-03-09T11:57:15-05:002024-03-09T11:57:15-05:00unresponsive to pumphttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;d99be7fd.2403BDear Lisa:<br><br>This is indeed a difficult situation, and and you're digging deep in the<br>toolkit! Were there any clues in the small improvement she noted? <br>Women have very individual reactions to a pump, and sometimes it helps<br>to track what exactly seemed to play into the better sessions. What<br>made her feel it was an impending plugged duct when it resolved with<br>gentle massage in the next feeding, rather than just a full area? [...]Shauntee Henry2024-03-07T08:57:10-05:002024-03-07T08:57:10-05:00Re: Oversupplyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;ee61e66e.2403AI had to work on reducing my supply to make myself and baby more comfortable. It requires trust in the process and physiology that many do not have.<br><br>I don’t think it’s enough to be able to hire a lactation specialist. We don’t live in communities where breastfeeding is common intergenerationally so the wisdom, experience and reassurance isn't there to help with the trust part. Those middle-of-the-night worries can’t be calmed only with professional help in my opinion. [...]Lisa Bell2024-03-07T06:14:20-05:002024-03-07T06:14:20-05:00Re: Unresponsive to pumphttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;dbda60b4.2403AThanks everyone for your suggestions. I had her trying everything that was suggested. She did have some improvement but still wasn’t able to empty with the pump. She called me today and said that she noticed that she was developing the beginnings of blocked ducts that disappeared with massage while nursing. She is going to try taking lecithin. Not sure if this is the cause or the result of the milk stasis but we shall see..<br>Thanks for all the help both on lactnet and with emails! [...]Meg Kingsley2024-03-07T16:42:31+11:002024-03-07T16:42:31+11:00POTS and breastfeedinghttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;9ca3db62.2403AHello all,<br><br>I have no experience to share about POTS and breastfeeding, but my teenage<br>daughter had a severe and protracted POTS following a head injury and so I<br>can deduce some potential issues.<br><br>Fluid intake is encouraged and so would be of particular importance with a<br>breastfeeding mother. A high salt diet is often recommended but this would<br>not influence the sodium content of the breastmilk [...] Naomi Bar-Yam2024-03-06T19:29:18+00:002024-03-06T19:29:18+00:00English speaking doula/lactation support in Colombiahttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;5a670a41.2403AGood day colleagues,<br><br>I am hoping to tap into the global network that is LactNet is for a friend of mine.<br><br>She is expecting a baby mid-April and lives in Cali, Valle del Cauca, Colombia. My friend is looking for an English speaking doula and lactation support provider or group, not necessarily the same person, to help her through the birth and postpartum. [...] Doctor Bagus2024-03-06T17:33:20+02:002024-03-06T17:33:20+02:00POTS and breastfeedinghttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;a9c9ab8e.2403ADoes anyone have experience with Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome and Breastfeeding?<br><br>What kind of challenges would this present?<br><br>I found this article : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9795856/<br><br>Any other info would be appreciated.<br><br>Dr Rahmat Bagus<br>Cape Town<br>South Africa<br>+27 82 82 64 600PATRICIA YOUNG2024-03-06T14:22:22+00:002024-03-06T14:22:22+00:00Re: unresponsive to pumphttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;3b20a5c2.2403AMargaret- Thanks for your reply. Excellent review of pumping problems. OK if I put it in the CBI Research Library<br> <br><br> <br><br> <br><br> <br><br> Margaret Wills2024-03-04T14:14:20-05:002024-03-04T14:14:20-05:00unresponsive to pumphttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;3f56934e.2403AHi Lisa:<br><br>Lactnet is just a trickle of messages now, but its archives are often<br>useful. While it will create a very long post, I'm copying my 2021<br>reply on this very question -- you've already offered many of these<br>ideas! Your client previously got an easier, larger pump output,<br>possibly during the more engorged early weeks? Now she's more in<br>balance with her thriving baby and trying to wedge in pumping sessions<br>in between frequently feeding a young baby. When she's back at work,<br>she'll likely be more full because she's harvesting accumulated milk<br>that the baby would have [...]Julie Tardos2024-03-03T21:55:27-08:002024-03-03T21:55:27-08:00Re: Unresponsive to pumphttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;307450b9.2403A> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2024 13:25:34 -0500<br>> From: Lisa Bell <Indybell@HOTMAIL.COM><br>> Subject: Unresponsive to pump<br>><br>> I have permission to post. I have a mother whose baby can transfer 5 oz<br>> when breastfeeding but unable to get more than an ounce when pumping.<br>> (Spectra)This began a week ago when she decided to do more pumping in prep<br>> for returning to work. She gets a single spray of milk when previously she<br>> saw multiple pores spraying. We tried different sized shields- decreasing<br>> sizes and increasing, using HOP, heat, massage, going back and [...]Lisa Bell2024-03-03T13:25:34-05:002024-03-03T13:25:34-05:00Unresponsive to pumphttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;e04d1445.2403AI have permission to post. I have a mother whose baby can transfer 5 oz when breastfeeding but unable to get more than an ounce when pumping. (Spectra)This began a week ago when she decided to do more pumping in prep for returning to work. She gets a single spray of milk when previously she saw multiple pores spraying. We tried different sized shields- decreasing sizes and increasing, using HOP, heat, massage, going back and forth from side to side while pumping one side at a time, power pumping, with no improvement. She is going home and plans to watch [...]Carmela Baeza IBCLC2024-03-01T10:47:11+01:002024-03-01T10:47:11+01:00Re unresolved nipple blebhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;5343d3fb.2403AHi!<br><br>For resistant blebs, after trying and failing with the usual management, I<br>prescribe a medium strength topical steroid cream, 3 times per day for 5<br>days. In the small amount of literature on blebs, they seem to be made of<br>inflammatory and descamated tissue, so it makes sense and usually works<br>well. If medical prescription is not in your scope of practice you'd have<br>to refer to someone who can. [...]Ilene Fabisch2024-02-29T20:06:05-05:002024-02-29T20:06:05-05:00Re: unresolved nipple blebhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;c288ecde.2402EI’m helping a friend that has been dealing with two blebs, same nipple for over a month. She is not local to me. They are painful blebs. She is taking lecithin, had an LC visit that had her soak in salt water and olive oil - (not something I would have done). She has had nothing different, baby is not teething or eating solids, no new laundry detergent, deodorant or perfumes. She is a veterinarian and had some sterile needles and tried to open to drain but it closed back up next day. Any suggestions- I don’t believe it’s infected.<br> [...]Allison Laverty Montag2024-02-29T14:40:24-06:002024-02-29T14:40:24-06:00Oversupplyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;8320ce9e.2402EAnxiety and pressure to do many things (some self imposed). Pumping is<br>something they can control and I believe many people find storing that much<br>milk empowering.<br><br>Fear of BF not working out and/or low supply.<br><br>Outdated info - many people are pumping to get out the plugged ducts they<br>read about. Lumps are interpreted as plugged ducts and they want to get<br>them out and avoid mastitis. [...]Kristel de Lijster2024-02-29T13:02:08+00:002024-02-29T13:02:08+00:00Unsubscribe lactnethttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;6fb17942.2402EFull message available at: <a href="https://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;6fb17942.2402E">Unsubscribe lactnet</a>Carmela Baeza IBCLC2024-02-29T11:19:28+01:002024-02-29T11:19:28+01:00Re: Oversupplyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;dfec3826.2402EHi!<br><br>Biggest change around here is Spain I´d say is also the Haakaa..<br><br>ALso, in my clinical experience I agree with Shauntée, in that quite a few<br>women with oversupply that I have worked with are reluctant to really lower<br>their supply! It is a difficult emotional situation to support, because on<br>the one hand they are clearly suffering (they and their babies) with the<br>oversupply), but also they are very afraid of a low milk supply, and they<br>consider a "normal" milk supply to be low, when they compare it to their<br>previous excess. These patients take a lot [...]Shauntee Henry2024-02-28T22:35:34-05:002024-02-28T22:35:34-05:00Re: Oversupplyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;a6a8cb2d.2402DFrom what I see in mom forums, many women mistakenly think they have a low milk supply after initial engorgement improves and volume stabilizes to meet their baby’s needs. They are panicked about a decreasing supply. The advice from other moms is almost always focused on increasing production.<br><br>I had/have an actual oversupply and even I had a brief moment when I worried about a decreasing supply. I took measures to manage engorgement, and even though I and baby were much more comfortable I questioned whether everything was ok. I have knowledge to keep me on track, but moms are [...]Heather Neville2024-02-28T22:21:41-04:002024-02-28T22:21:41-04:00Re: Oversupplyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;f1cc579e.2402DHi,<br>I have been finding a lot of clients using Hakaa style pumps during all of<br>their feeds, or just unnecessarily pumping because they think they need to<br>‘stockpile milk’ in the freezer. A lot will leave their Hakaa pumps on for<br>the entire feed, putting it on one breast while baby feeds on the other. I<br>feel like that has been the biggest change in trends the last few years<br>leading to oversupply. [...]Sarah Peck2024-02-28T09:22:36-08:002024-02-28T09:22:36-08:00Re: Oversupplyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;17caed9c.2402DI think this is a much bigger question...<br><br>Jobs are more demanding post-covid, childcare is more expensive, inflation<br>has made EVERYTHING more expensive, homes are more expensive, stress has<br>increased, social media advice increasing mental load...etc.<br><br>I do advise that some moms start to pump and store whenever they want (and<br>that was something that I had to do myself). This helped me mentally and I<br>am still using that stash for supplement now that I am 10 months into my<br>breastfeeding journey and the demands of my own job have required that I<br>supplement. I do not advise driving [...]Doctor Bagus2024-02-28T19:07:33+02:002024-02-28T19:07:33+02:00Re: Oversupplyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;b7558edb.2402DLatch not deep and comfortable enough<br>Hakaa<br>Unnecessary pumping<br>Unnecessary galactogogues<br>Following breastfeeding apps instead of learning the baby's cues<br>Timing feeds<br>Not actually breastfeeding, rather bottle-feeding breastmilk<br>Feeding their freezers because from day 1 the moms are stressed about returning to work and I've heard some IBCLCs advise to start pumping as soon as possible!<br>There are probably more to add to the list but in my experience these are the commonest, [...]Theresa Moutafis2024-02-28T10:31:11-05:002024-02-28T10:31:11-05:00Re: Oversupplyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;527e99c3.2402DMy first thought is the obsession with using a Haakaa and oftentimes also<br>doing extra pumping because of the ‘need’ to have a stash. But Haakaa is my<br>first guess…<br><br>Sent from Gmail Mobile<br><br>On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 10:02 AM Kristen Bell <kristenbell79@gmail.com><br>wrote:<br><br>> Hi<br>><br>> I have been an IBCLC for 15 years and through the beginning of my practice<br>> I rarely or I frequently saw oversupply issues.<br>><br>> Since last Spring I am seeing this all the time! I run weekly<br>> breastfeeding clinics and I have patients with this issue every clinic. [...]Kristen Bell2024-02-28T10:02:08-05:002024-02-28T10:02:08-05:00Oversupplyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;6fe9be19.2402DHi<br><br>I have been an IBCLC for 15 years and through the beginning of my practice I rarely or I frequently saw oversupply issues.<br><br>Since last Spring I am seeing this all the time! I run weekly breastfeeding clinics and I have patients with this issue every clinic. I have racked my brain to figure out why this is but I cannot figure it out. [...] Ruth Berkowitz2024-02-19T14:47:28+11:002024-02-19T14:47:28+11:00pseudoephedrine articlehttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;352f9e5.2402CHi all,<br><br>The article about pseudoephedrine and milk production was published in<br>2003 in the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology,<br>https://doi.org/10.1046/j.1365-2125.2003.01822.x<br><https://doi.org/10.1046/j.1365-2125.2003.01822.x><br><br>There are a number of articles related to this one. I only had a hard<br>copy from prepublication dated 2002.<br><br>I hope this is useful,<br><br>Ruth Berkowitz, IBCLC; ABA breastfeeding counsellor & breastfeeding<br>educator (CertIV); Diploma of Breastfeeding Management; CertIV trainer &<br>assessor; Grad Dip (counselling); MLS; B Sci (ed) Partner Greg; mother<br>to Deb & Nate; grandmother to Freja & Pema and MargotRachel Watson2024-02-18T15:04:17-08:002024-02-18T15:04:17-08:00Relocation advicehttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;ae7f306c.2402CHi all,<br><br>Hope it's ok to ask this on here. My family and I are moving back to the UK<br>this summer after almost 20 years in San Francisco. I am<br>currently working as a Lactation Consultant in a hospital setting<br>(inpatient, outpatient, teaching classes, facilitating support groups.) I<br>have an IBCLC credential, but am not an RN. I am hoping some UK based folks<br>would be willing to chat with me about how/where to begin to look for an LC<br>job there. [...]Frank J. Nice2024-02-18T15:03:56+00:002024-02-18T15:03:56+00:00Pseudoephedrinehttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;b918b565.2402CRe:<br>Let's say you're pregnant, and you have a cold, so you take<br>pseudoephedrine. You're not breastfeeding yet, but can the drug interfere<br>with milk production after you give birth? How long before you give birth<br>might it affect milk production? Can it affect colostrum production?<br>The answer is five half-lives, which would be up to approximately 24 hours after you stop taking pseudoephedrine.<br>Yes; it could affect colostrum production if taken during that time.<br>I doubt any mother giving birth would be taking pseudoephedrine during that time, in any case. [...] Ruth Berkowitz2024-02-18T17:58:05+11:002024-02-18T17:58:05+11:00Re: Pseudoephedrinehttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;bc7b53f3.2402CHi Julie and all,<br><br>I believe in the research that Peter Hartmann's team did many many years<br>ago, they found that supply returned shortly after stopping the<br>pseudoephedrine.<br><br>I'm replying without my files, but will look up the date and title. I<br>do know that they stopped the research at the pilot study because they<br>found milk supply dropped so much. [...]Julie Tardos2024-02-17T11:14:41-08:002024-02-17T11:14:41-08:00Pseudoephedrine questionhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;b5568dc4.2402CI have a cold and am taking pseudoephedrine, which made me wonder about<br>this.<br><br>Let's say you're pregnant, and you have a cold, so you take<br>pseudoephedrine. You're not breastfeeding yet, but can the drug interfere<br>with milk production after you give birth? How long before you give birth<br>might it affect milk production? Can it affect colostrum production? [...]Lisa Marasco IBCLC2024-02-06T22:31:32+00:002024-02-06T22:31:32+00:00Looking for these old European studieshttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;ae30cdd7.2402AHi everyone,<br>I would love to obtain these old articles to glean their insights. They are all non-English. Might someone out there have access to one or more of them?<br>Thanks,<br>Lisa Marasco<br><br>Gynakol Geburtshilfliche Rundsch. 2004 Oct;44(4):233-7.<br>[Natural remedies during pregnancy and lactation].<br>[Article in German]<br>Gut E1, Melzer J, von Mandach U, Saller R.<br>Author information 1Abteilung Naturheilkunde, Departement innere Medizin, Universitätsspitals Zürich, Rämistrasse 100, CH-8091 Zürich, Switzerland.<br>Abstract<br>Up to date there is a lack of systematically gathered data on the use of natural remedies (phytotherapeutic, homeopathic, anthroposophic, spagyric, Bach and Schussler remedies) during pregnancy and lactation. [...]PATRICIA YOUNG2023-12-27T15:34:16+00:002023-12-27T15:34:16+00:00Re: Dr. Thompson Methodhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;b2535c2f.2312DLiz- Great thoughts on "the one best way". Kind of sad how $ has taken over EVERYTHING in our world, Pat in SNJMYoung2023-12-27T09:49:01-05:002023-12-27T09:49:01-05:00Re: Dr. Thompson Methodhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;b2218d4e.2312DI have not personally taken the course but I have had patients that have. From what I gather it basically teaches the basics of infant feeding- talks about laid back position, letting baby self latch, feeding on demand, etc.<br><br>My concern about the program is it doesn’t allow for any exceptions if baby isn’t feeding well in that one position or if baby has any other issues. From what I have seen -it basically says not to let anyone help you and just keep doing the same thing. The worst case I had from this method was a patient with [...]Elizabeth Brooks2023-12-27T06:50:06-05:002023-12-27T06:50:06-05:00Re: Dr. Thompson Methodhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;6958c45d.2312DTo my view: This is well-marketed commodification of lactation support.<br><br>From their website: "Simply put, The Thompson Method, is a gentle,<br>evidence-based approach to birth and breastfeeding, which reveals strong<br>links between the way a woman’s birthing experience unfolds and her<br>subsequent breastfeeding journey."<br><br>That sounds a lot like what I know, and can do, as an IBCLC. From the<br>IBCLC Commission: "International Board Certified Lactation Consultants<br>(IBCLCs) are important members of the maternal-child health team<br>specialising in breastfeeding care. [...]Ilene Fabisch2023-12-26T10:19:12-05:002023-12-26T10:19:12-05:00Dr. Thompson Methodhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;98f980a8.2312DAnyone have any idea whats going on with this? My DIL is expecting and just<br>asked me if I knew anything about this and how it differs from "regular"<br>bfing. I hadn't even heard of it so asking my mentors here - what's up.<br>Looks to me at first glance that it is nothing more than preying on<br>vulnerabilities of new moms. My DIL has a hx of insufficient milk supply<br>due to lack of glandular tissue and she is, of course, intrigued.Anna Swisher2023-12-20T15:26:34+00:002023-12-20T15:26:34+00:00Re: WIC infant formula provisionhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;5a040267.2312CYikes, I didn't realize the website link would not post, Karleen!<br>Sorry for cluttering the list.Here it is again (unformatted). If this doesn't work, google "wic food package infant."<br>fns.usda.gov/wic/food-packages-maximum-monthly-allowances<br>Best wishes,<br>Anna SwisherDoctor Bagus2023-12-20T10:53:27+02:002023-12-20T10:53:27+02:00Re: treatment in hyperbaric chamber while lactatinghttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;972f9c3c.2312Chttps://www.e-lactancia.org/breastfeeding/hyperbaric-chamber/synonym/<br><br>considered low risk<br><br>A procedure which uses a chamber that is pressurized with oxygen where the patient is introduced who needs to increase the amount of oxygen in the blood. Indicated in poisonings with carbon monoxide (CO), decompression sickness from diving, very serious infections and gas embolism (MedlinePlus 2016).<br><br>It has been used in the neonatal period (Sánchez 2013, Hsieh 1999), breastfeeding mothers (Guler 2015) and in serious complicated mastitis (Belokurov 1984). [...]Leslie Cree2023-12-19T19:21:10-05:002023-12-19T19:21:10-05:00treatment in hyperbaric chamber while lactatinghttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;a3ca3c28.2312CHello all,<br>I've searched the archives and was not able to locate any information. I was part of a weekly clinical care meeting at work and someone presented the query that one of her patients (currently lactating, not sure of infant age --<3 months most likely) wanted to know if it was okay to do a session in a hyperbaric chamber. We were not sure and suggested holding off on the session until we can research the issue. I'm hoping you all will be able share your wisdom with us. Kindly, LeslieAnna Swisher2023-12-19T18:32:15+00:002023-12-19T18:32:15+00:00Re: WIC infant formula provisionhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;81803086.2312CHi, Karleen,<br>WIC is a labyrinth, and hopefully, someone on Lactnet with WIC will respond. Here is one description I found--scroll down on the site to reach the infant formula provisions. WIC is administered by the US Agricultural Department (USDA).<br><br>WIC Food Packages - Maximum Monthly Allowances | Food and Nutrition Service [...]Tina Lavy2023-12-18T02:45:30-05:002023-12-18T02:45:30-05:00Re: WIC infant formula provisionhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;d4e84dd7.2312CWIC (Women, Infants, and Children Supplemental Food Program) celebrates its 50th anniversary in 2024. It is a United States federally funded program under the USDA. In answer to your question RE WIC infant formula provision: WIC is a supplement to both the foods they offer to children and mothers (regular milk, eggs, cheese, fruit and vegetables, cereal, juice, peanut butter and dried beans) as well as formula. Meaning the program does not offer nor is allowed to provide 100% of an infants formula need from birth to 1 year. Federal mandate only allows a specified amount based on infants age [...]Karleen Gribble2023-12-18T10:06:13+11:002023-12-18T10:06:13+11:00WIC infant formula provisionhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;51628609.2312CHi everyone,I was hoping that someone here could point me to a document or website that describes the supplementary nature of WIC's infant formula provision- i.e. that they give enough to often fully formula feed initially but then it is not sufficient as the infant gets olderThanks so much for your assistance.Kind RegardsKarleenJulie Tardos2023-12-06T11:09:16-08:002023-12-06T11:09:16-08:00Re: Book: The Lactation Consultant in Private Practice; and a question about keeping recordshttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;85882334.2312AThanks for the info, Liz. Now I'm even more glad I didn't re-up.<br><br>The spit take comment was unnecessary.<br><br>Julie Tardos<br><br>On Wed, Dec 6, 2023, 3:48 AM Elizabeth Brooks <ecbrks@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br>> Now that I have cleaned my sputtered coffee off my computer screen, I can<br>> more quietly and calmly address the Q of how long to retain medical records<br>> after a health practitioner (like an IBCLC) is retired from active practice.<br>><br>> How long to safely keep records is not designed to suit the practitioner's<br>> convenience, but to preserve the rights of patients/clients to [...]Elizabeth Brooks2023-12-06T06:47:52-05:002023-12-06T06:47:52-05:00Re: Book: The Lactation Consultant in Private Practice; and a question about keeping recordshttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;39eab271.2312ANow that I have cleaned my sputtered coffee off my computer screen, I can<br>more quietly and calmly address the Q of how long to retain medical records<br>after a health practitioner (like an IBCLC) is retired from active practice.<br><br>How long to safely keep records is not designed to suit the practitioner's<br>convenience, but to preserve the rights of patients/clients to sue for<br>redress of injuries even years down the road (!). Since we work with<br>minors, some states require records be kept until that child grows to 21<br>(or more) years of age. [...]Julie Tardos2023-12-05T14:09:51-08:002023-12-05T14:09:51-08:00Book: The Lactation Consultant in Private Practice; and a question about keeping recordshttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;d5972a90.2312AFree for shipping cost within USA: The Lactation Consultant in Private<br>Practice by Linda J. Smith. Good book, but I no longer need it, and it<br>would be useful to someone else.<br><br>Question. Is there any reason I should keep records of my past clients now<br>that I'm no longer an IBCLC and seeing clients? It's been 2 years since my<br>last client. Can I just shred it all? Most of it is on paper. Some<br>computer records, all of the reports I sent to doctors. Any reason to not<br>delete it all? [...]Margaret Wills2023-11-17T11:01:54-05:002023-11-17T11:01:54-05:00research on pump efficiencyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;6c566d6.2311CDear Naomi --<br><br>This is a topic of great general interest, so let's keep the discussion<br>here!<br><br> It's sometimes hard to realize how quickly the "silent revolution" of<br>wide-spread pump use has taken place, with very little broad-based,<br>commercial-conflict-free research (particularly concerning families with<br>healthy term babies) examining the designs, efficacy, and comfort of the<br>products that people are depending on, in this booming, only-lightly<br>regulated market. If you haven't done a search for "breast pump"<br>lately, go there now! [...]Marsha Walker2023-11-17T10:17:20-05:002023-11-17T10:17:20-05:00Breast pump efficacyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;70b7b7da.2311CNaomi has asked about breast pump efficacy and there are certainly many<br>published articles on breast pumps and expressing milk. You might find some<br>of the information you are asking for in the upcoming issue of the journal<br>Clinical Lactation. This special issue is specific to breast pumps and<br>pumping. It should be out soon. [...]Naomi Bar-Yam2023-11-16T14:54:43+00:002023-11-16T14:54:43+00:00research on pump efficacyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;e1379020.2311CGood morning colleagues,<br><br>I am looking for research studies and review papers on breast pump use and efficacy, primarily in the US, for full term healthy babies.<br>1. Who uses pumps?<br>2. What kinds of pumps are used?<br>3. What is their impact on breastfeeding exclusivity and duration?<br>4. What is the impact of ACA pump policies?<br>5. What do moms say about pump use? [...]PATRICIA YOUNG2023-11-09T13:15:30+00:002023-11-09T13:15:30+00:00Re: Center for Breastfeeding Informationhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;ae8280f5.2311BOh yes!<br>On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 11:14:06 PM EST, Nikki Lee <nleeguitar@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br>Hi Pat:<br><br>You have done work that is both important and monumental.<br><br>We have to pass it on!<br><br>The Drexel University Lactation Program might be an option. I have a few<br>names there if you are interested.<br><br>xoxoxo<br><br>--<br>Nikki Lee, she/her/hers<br>RN, BSN, Mother of 2, MS, Grandmother of 1, IBCLC, CCE, CIMI, ANLC, RYT500<br>*@NikkiLeeHealth*<br>www.nikkileehealth.com [...]Nikki Lee2023-11-08T20:13:27-08:002023-11-08T20:13:27-08:00Center for Breastfeeding Informationhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;3fd21c8.2311BHi Pat:<br><br>You have done work that is both important and monumental.<br><br>We have to pass it on!<br><br>The Drexel University Lactation Program might be an option. I have a few<br>names there if you are interested.<br><br>xoxoxoBre Booren2023-11-07T22:30:59-07:002023-11-07T22:30:59-07:00Unsubscribe lactnethttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;a7d5a587.2311BOn Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 10:00 PM LACTNET automatic digest system <<br>LISTSERV@community.lsoft.com> wrote:<br><br>> There are 4 messages totaling 128 lines in this issue.<br>><br>> Topics of the day:<br>><br>> 1. Re" Origin of the expression "On demand feeding" (2)<br>> 2. Center for Breastfeeding Information Research Library (2)<br>><br>> Lactnet Archives are at:<br>> LACTNET Archives http://community.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html<br>> To Manage your Subscription, ie go nomail, index, etc, go to:<br>> http://community.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html<br>><br>> Thanks!<br>><br>> LACTNET Facilitators<br>> Kathleen B. Bruce RN, BSN, IBCLC<br>> Rachel Myr, midwife, IBCLC<br>> Kathy Koch PhD<br> [...]Naomi Bar-Yam2023-11-07T15:00:26+00:002023-11-07T15:00:26+00:00Re: Center for Breastfeeding Information Research Libraryhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;e8eaed5e.2311APat,<br>Thank you for all your efforts to rescue the CBI from oblivion. That was no small feat, over years.<br>Finding a new home for this resource is a project in itself. Brainstorming a couple of ideas.<br><br>Finding a university library to take this over is a great idea, but which one? I seem to recall that there is one university that has a program in lactation science/lactation education, but can’t remember where it is. [...]A. Raechel Hackney, RN, IBCLC2023-11-07T09:15:47-05:002023-11-07T09:15:47-05:00Re: Re" Origin of the expression "On demand feeding"https://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;36c134b1.2311AThanks to those of you who helped pave the way to successful breastfeeding for millions of babies and moms by discouraging scheduled feedings. I used to describe my toddler's feeding style as "nursing on command". I had a very insistent child!Anna Swisher2023-11-07T11:51:03+00:002023-11-07T11:51:03+00:00Re: Center for Breastfeeding Information Research Libraryhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;a6eb7903.2311AThank you so much, Pat! This is a crucially important endeavor, and those of us who know the value of institutional memory and primary documents/sources owe you a huge debt. I'll email you with some ideas :-)<br>LLLLove,Anna Swisher<br>(In Texas, north of Austin)<br><br>Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2023 23:47:20 +0000<br>From: PATRICIA YOUNG <patyoungz@VERIZON.NET><br>Subject: Re: Center for Breastfeeding Information Research Library [...]Virginia Thorley2023-11-07T15:47:03+10:002023-11-07T15:47:03+10:00Re" Origin of the expression "On demand feeding"https://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;38d146f4.2311AFelicia,<br>The term "on demand feeding" was around in the mid-1960s in Australia and<br>New Zealand when it was used in State-run maternal and child health circles<br>(and in some areas and by some individuals frowned upon), but I don't know<br>how many years before that as I don't have all my old notebooks from my<br>research for my PhD. The notebooks from my research are in one or other box<br>since I moved a while ago. [...]Felicia Henry2023-11-06T19:44:35-08:002023-11-06T19:44:35-08:00Re: Origin of the expression "On demand breastfeeding"https://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;b8226432.2311AI am pretty sure it did come from La Leche League. When they began all<br>feedings (breast or bottle) were on a strict 4 hour schedule, yes even for<br>a newborn, and if the baby was hungry before 4 hours. Well you obviously<br>don't have 'enough' milk so switch to bottle/formula. La Leche League were<br>the first to say maybe the baby is hungry and expecting a tiny newborn to<br>wait hours is a bit excessive. So they came up with the idea of feeding the<br>baby when they seem hungry. The name is also used as cue feeding, on<br> [...]PATRICIA YOUNG2023-11-06T23:47:20+00:002023-11-06T23:47:20+00:00Re: Center for Breastfeeding Information Research Libraryhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;e84499cd.2311AI begged for the La Leche League library for several years after they closed it in 2005. In 2009 they gave it to me....it only cost me a lot to have a trailer truck deliver 7 very large files and lots of boxes of books and paper articles. I have spent the time since in databasing and scanning 45,000+ research articles and resources. Like we have all of JHL, Clin Lact, BF Med etc. I don't have copyright permission to share. Would love to get a grant for copyright or have my local University adopt the CBI! I was able [...]Anna Swisher2023-11-06T17:43:07+00:002023-11-06T17:43:07+00:00Center for Breastfeeding Information Research Libraryhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;770bd744.2311APat, this is so interesting! Can you share more about this library?<br>with thanks,<br>Anna Swisher, MBA, IBCLCNaomi Bar-Yam2023-11-06T11:54:39+00:002023-11-06T11:54:39+00:00Re: First Breastfeeding Journal in Spanishhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;f758553f.2311AKika,<br>This is wonderful news and so important. Thanks to you and your colleagues for all the hard work you, your colleagues and partners did and are doing to make the evidence of our evidence based practice available in Spanish - and at no cost to the reader!<br><br>Congratulations.<br><br>NaomiPATRICIA YOUNG2023-11-05T22:07:31+00:002023-11-05T22:07:31+00:00Re: First Breastfeeding Journal in Spanishhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;ec3817e2.2311AHow exciting! Would it be possible to add the cebnterbfi@verizon.net to the mailing list?? I would LOVE to be able to add each issue to the Center for Breastfeeding Information Reseach Library database! Thanks, Pat Young, APN, IBCLC, LLLL<br>On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 06:58:20 PM EDT, Nuria Solano <000001aec68d8b36-dmarc-request@community.lsoft.com> wrote: [...]Micaela Notarangelo2023-11-05T18:03:17+01:002023-11-05T18:03:17+01:00Origin of the expression "On demand breastfeeding"https://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;5c9cc981.2311ACan anyone recall when the expression "on demand breastfeeding" was<br>created?<br>Where did it come from?<br><br>Is it from La Leche League?<br><br>Thanks for the help,<br><br>Micaela Notarangelo, IBCLCFrançoise Coudray - IBCLC2023-11-04T07:53:08+01:002023-11-04T07:53:08+01:00Re: First Breastfeeding Journal in Spanishhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;93f5242e.2311AHello Kika,<br>That is really great! that is amazing!<br>Even if I do not speak Spanish (just one year of Spanish courses), I will<br>be happy to have a glance at it! I just had! (I will just be careful of<br>automatic translators LOL);<br>That is a wonderful idea,<br>and what I wish to add: I appreciate the notion of open source - free;<br>Best,<br>Françoise [...]Nuria Solano2023-11-03T22:58:08+00:002023-11-03T22:58:08+00:00Re: First Breastfeeding Journal in Spanishhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;9540a436.2311AThank you.<br><br>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone<br><br>On Friday, November 3, 2023, 5:18 AM, Carmela Baeza IBCLC <carmela.baeza.ibclc@GMAIL.COM> wrote:<br><br>Hi everyone!<br><br>There are great clinicians and researchers all over the world whose first<br>language is Spanish and who often feel that English is a barrier for both<br>publishing their papers and for reading scientific articles. [...]Carmela Baeza IBCLC2023-11-03T13:18:07+01:002023-11-03T13:18:07+01:00First Breastfeeding Journal in Spanishhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;4502c2ab.2311AHi everyone!<br><br>There are great clinicians and researchers all over the world whose first<br>language is Spanish and who often feel that English is a barrier for both<br>publishing their papers and for reading scientific articles.<br><br>After a lot of hard work, I am proud to announce the launch of the Revista<br>de Lactancia Materna, a scientific journal published by Ediciones<br>Universidad de Salamanca and promoted by AELAMA (Asociación Española de<br>Promoción y Apoyo a la Lactancia Materna), with the support of BFHI Spain<br>and of AECCLM (Spanish IBCLC Association), which aims to disseminate<br>research papers, literature reviews, recommendations and [...]Nikki Lee2023-10-30T09:00:17-05:002023-10-30T09:00:17-05:00Link to Karleen Gribble's latest articlehttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;bcdf1020.2310EDear Lactnet Friends:<br><br>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10599145/<br><br>warmly,Jean Ridler2023-10-29T13:59:54-00:002023-10-29T13:59:54-00:00Re: new paper on breastfeeding and gender equality -- added punctuation needed on linkhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;392c7c4.2310EThank you, Margaret<br><br>Hi all --<br><br>The link provided for Karleen's article needs a "dot" (aka period) before the "org" to work.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Margaret Wills, Maryland, USA<br><br>> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:08:33 +1100<br>> From: Karleen Gribble <karleeng@AAPT.NET.AU><br>> Subject: New paper on breastfeeding and gender equality<br>><br>><br>> Hi Lactnetters,<br>> Together with others, I have recently had a paper published on the<br>> subject of breastfeeding and gender equality. It might of particular<br>> interest to those involved in advocacy with governments and other<br>> policy makers and assist in avoiding gender equality initiatives<br>> [...]Margaret Wills2023-10-29T09:25:51-04:002023-10-29T09:25:51-04:00new paper on breastfeeding and gender equality -- added punctuation needed on linkhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;7efec81f.2310EHi all --<br><br>The link provided for Karleen's article needs a "dot" (aka period)<br>before the "org" to work.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Margaret Wills, Maryland, USA<br><br>> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 16:08:33 +1100<br>> From: Karleen Gribble <karleeng@AAPT.NET.AU><br>> Subject: New paper on breastfeeding and gender equality<br>><br>><br>> Hi Lactnetters,<br>> Together with others, I have recently had a paper published on the<br>> subject of breastfeeding and gender equality. It might of particular<br>> interest to those involved in advocacy with governments and other<br>> policy makers and assist in avoiding gender equality initiatives<br>> undermining the ability [...]Karleen Gribble2023-10-28T16:08:33+11:002023-10-28T16:08:33+11:00New paper on breastfeeding and gender equalityhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;3d49bf7c.2310DHi Lactnetters, Together with others, I have recently had a paper published on the subject of breastfeeding and gender equality. It might of particular interest to those involved in advocacy with governments and other policy makers and assist in avoiding gender equality initiatives undermining the ability of women to breastfeed their babies (which unfortunately is quite common). Reference and link is below, Gribble, K. D., Smith, J. P., Gammeltoft, T., Ulep, V., Van Esterik, P., Craig, L., Pereira-Kotze, C., Chopra, D., Siregar, A., Hajizadeh, M. & Mathisen, R. 2023. Breastfeeding and infant care as ‘sexed’ care work: Reconsideration of the [...]Karleen Gribble2023-10-28T15:54:05+11:002023-10-28T15:54:05+11:00New article on breastfeeding in emergencieshttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;6a82a0b8.2310DHi Lactnetters, I thought that the below article I coauthored for mothers and those supporting them during disasters on how to keep breastfeeding through emergencies (and explicitly addressing that stress does not impact milk production) might be of interest. https://theconversation.com/no-stress-wont-dry-up-your-milk-how-to-keep-breastfeeding-your-baby-in-an-emergency-205031 Kind RegardsKarleen GribbleAustraliaStephanie George2023-10-20T09:04:01-04:002023-10-20T09:04:01-04:00Torbangun and Traditional Medicineshttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;89af4c83.2310C><br>> Torbangun has not be the Western-identified scientific studies, but as it<br>> has been a tradtitional medicine by the people in Indonesia for<br>> generations, it will be safe for the nursing parent.<br><br>I would suggest finding a Traditional Medicine Person (TMP) from Indonesia<br>to ask if there are side effects, drug interactions, of which to be aware.<br>Our TMP we work with on my Reserve has expensive knowledge about drug<br>interactions, far more than doctors know. [...]Duret, Anne2023-10-19T20:29:52+00:002023-10-19T20:29:52+00:00Torbangunhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;8376b6e2.2310CHas anyone worked with a mom trying to increase milk supply with an herb called torbangun? Also know as coleus amboinicus. There are very few studies done on this herb so anecdotal input would be helpful.<br><br>Thanks.<br><br>Anne Duret RNC IBCLC<br>Sacred Heart Medical Center<br>Springfield, OR Felicia Henry2023-10-01T12:31:31-07:002023-10-01T12:31:31-07:00Subject: Unilateral milk reductionhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;70d61971.2310AYears ago had a co-leader that this happened to, with all her pregnancies.<br>She was able to just nurse off one breast until they self weaned. She tried<br>pumping that breast in between feeds with a hospital grade pump, it never<br>came back.<br><br>Felicia HenryStephanie Badillo72023-09-28T13:23:25-07:002023-09-28T13:23:25-07:00Re: Unilateral milk reductionhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;9206db8b.2309DDid they order a CT or ultrasound?<br><br>On Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 8:14 AM Carol leonard <<br>000003d648fdd386-dmarc-request@community.lsoft.com> wrote:<br><br>> Permission to post.<br>><br>> I have a mom with a 7 month old who says baby nurses well from both<br>> breasts but milk has ceased from one breast. She has been nursing more and<br>> pumping that breast with no results. I suggested she contact her provider,<br>> they had told her to contact me. I can find no info in any reference books<br>> regarding this situation. Can anyone advise??<br>><br>> Thx, Carol<br>><br>> ***********************************************<br> [...]Carol leonard2023-09-28T11:14:22-04:002023-09-28T11:14:22-04:00Unilateral milk reductionhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;9fc1b335.2309DPermission to post.<br><br>I have a mom with a 7 month old who says baby nurses well from both breasts but milk has ceased from one breast. She has been nursing more and pumping that breast with no results. I suggested she contact her provider, they had told her to contact me. I can find no info in any reference books regarding this situation. Can anyone advise?? [...]PATRICIA YOUNG2023-09-22T00:56:19+00:002023-09-22T00:56:19+00:00Re: IBLCEhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;787a71a8.2309CHi Donna, I took exam as IBCLC in 1985 and worked as a IBCLC in local hosp. 1986-1991, got Ped APN in 1994 and worked in ped office for 25 years. Have been a LLLL since 1967. have 2 mtgs /mo at my home and see mothers and babies with issues as a volunteer because I maintain my license and ins. and can dx and refer. I have also run the Center for Breastfeeding Information Research Library since receiving it from LLLI in 2009. We have 45,000+ research and resource articles databased and scanned. Pat Young, APN, IBCLC, LLLL<br>PS [...]Maire Orlando2023-09-21T00:20:55-04:002023-09-21T00:20:55-04:00Breastfeeding supportive Speech Therapist in the Boise Idaho area?https://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;800313a6.2309CHello!<br>Does anyone have recommendations for a Speech Thrapist who knows how to support babies with cleft palate to breastfeed?<br>I have a family here who has simply been told by the cleft palate team that they have never seen any cleft palate baby breastfeed.<br>Baby has a cleft soft palate, and had actually latched successfully a few times. And induced a MER on the 3rd day.<br>But then the cleft was discovered. They were immediately given the Dr Brown bottle where baby only has to bite to get milk, and the suck became extremely disorganized after. We have not [...]David W Vaklyes2023-09-20T12:48:11-04:002023-09-20T12:48:11-04:00Re: IBLCEhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;78e15735.2309CAccording to this document https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/089033449000600240 in 1985 (which I believe was the first exam) 259 folks took the exam and 94.6% passed which by my calculation means there were 245 IBCLCs after the 1985 exam. There is no breakout by country.<br><br>The 2000 document https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/089033440101700213 does not tell the total number of IBCLCs. It does state that 1862 folks took the exam, 919 from the United States. Overall 1635 passed. [...]Donna Goggin2023-09-20T15:42:03+00:002023-09-20T15:42:03+00:00IBLCEhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;99b81ee3.2309CHi everyone,I'm looking for information for a presentation I'm doing, I've contacted IBLCE and their response was they don't have this info.<br>I'm looking for the number of IBCLC's in the USA and territories in the year 2000 and if available from the original test year in 1985.<br>Thank you for any help.Donna Goggin-Dolwick, BSN, RN, IBCLCMichigan, USAJill Kerr2023-09-16T04:30:21-04:002023-09-16T04:30:21-04:00Unsubscribe lactnethttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;b38e3ad1.2309CSent from my iPad<br><br>> On Sep 16, 2023, at 12:01 AM, LACTNET automatic digest system <LISTSERV@community.lsoft.com> wrote:<br>><br>> There is 1 message totaling 125 lines in this issue.<br>><br>> Topics of the day:<br>><br>> 1. Buffy, funny story<br>><br>> Lactnet Archives are at:<br>> LACTNET Archives http://community.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html<br>> To Manage your Subscription, ie go nomail, index, etc, go to:<br>> http://community.lsoft.com/archives/lactnet.html<br>><br>> Thanks!<br>><br>> LACTNET Facilitators<br>> Kathleen B. Bruce RN, BSN, IBCLC<br>> Rachel Myr, midwife, IBCLC<br>> Kathy Koch PhD<br>> Linda Pohl<br>> Karleen Gribble PhD<br>> Norma Ritter, IBCLC<br> [...]Stephanie George2023-09-15T09:31:01-04:002023-09-15T09:31:01-04:00Buffy, funny storyhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;333ebaa7.2309CSago:<br><br>My community of Six Nations of the Grand River hosted a concert by Buffy, a<br>few months before Covid hit. It was an arts week for the youth.<br><br>I was GAGA over her coming and was able to get ticket for me, our girl, and<br>Dave.<br><br>While I am a good speaker, I am ALWAYS nervous in the first few minutes. [...]Elsa Petersson2023-09-14T16:52:14-04:002023-09-14T16:52:14-04:00Re: Lovely vintage breastfeeding photoshttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;bf2b9797.2309BThank you for sharing that compilation of amazing vintage breastfeeding photos. The following is a lovely interview I found of Buffy on the subject of the 1977 episode of her breastfeeding on Sesame Street: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzWxY-Yaf8UMargaret Wills2023-09-13T13:11:43-04:002023-09-13T13:11:43-04:00Lovely vintage breastfeeding photoshttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;8a38ac20.2309BHello all --<br><br>Lactnet has been tackling important topics in our field in recent posts.<br>As a little diversion -- Just wanted to share a lovely and diverse set<br>of vintage photos of a grand tradition:<br><br>https://pregnantchicken.com/old-breastfeeding-images/<br><br>Margaret Wills, IBCLC Maryland, USADoctor Bagus2023-09-13T10:33:22+02:002023-09-13T10:33:22+02:00Re: Lactnet Mastitis protocolhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;5edccda8.2309BDear all<br><br>I am appreciative of all these valuable discussions regarding the controversies around the new protocol.<br><br>I am a GP, LLLLeader and IBCLC based in Cape Town, South Africa. I have NO research background. In my clinical experience, around 80% of mastitis cases I've dealt with clear within 48 hours after putting that mother and baby in bed together. Of course assessing for a deep comfortable latch goes without saying, but removing dummies and bottles and pumping is something I've always suggested as its not part of the normal physiology of breastfeeding. And I'm saying this from the perspective [...]Françoise Coudray - IBCLC2023-09-12T19:08:56+02:002023-09-12T19:08:56+02:00Re: More fuel for the formula manufacturershttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;30cffea.2309BThank you Rebecca;<br>my question would be: what kind of breastfeeding it was?<br>I remember in 2000 (I have this memory because I had had a phone<br>conversation on this topic that year), one used to say mixed feeding or<br>understand breastfeeding + formula enhanced the transmission of HIV. And<br>the problem came from the formula. [...]Rebecca DeYoung-Daniels2023-09-12T11:59:18-05:002023-09-12T11:59:18-05:00More fuel for the formula manufacturershttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;5ed261d9.2309B*Headline in MedPage Today: "Study Links Being Breastfed to Cancer Risk in<br>Adulthood"*<br><br>https://www.medpagetoday.com/gastroenterology/coloncancer/106253?xid=nl_mpt_morningbreak2023-09-11&eun=g1088585d0r<br>(I enjoyed the comments section, but was not successful in adding my<br>own...hopefully, some of you will have better luck doing so.)<br><br>*Actual Article Title in CGH Journal: "Being Breastfed in Infancy and Risk<br>of Colorectal Cancer and Precursor Lesions"*<br><br>https://www.cghjournal.org/article/S1542-3565(23)00673-0/fulltext<br><br>The authors' conflict of interest details and study variables are<br>"interesting", but I know that I'm preaching to the proverbial choir. [...]Nikki Lee2023-09-12T08:16:53-05:002023-09-12T08:16:53-05:00more on ABM mastitis protocolhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;ed9d4504.2309BDear Elien, Naomi, Pamela and all:<br><br>This discussion has been collegial and professional.<br><br>I am remembering the original definition of "evidence-based medicine" ; my<br>source is the folks at Johns Hopkins. Evidence based medicine is a blend of<br>research findings, clinician experience and patient concerns and values.<br><br>I had my own personal clinical experience dismissed by one of the authors<br>of the new protocol. [...]Françoise Coudray - IBCLC2023-09-12T13:14:05+02:002023-09-12T13:14:05+02:00Re: Lactnet Mastitis protocolhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;1fa88461.2309BHi to all of you,<br><br>To all of the comments that have been written by my estimated colleagues,<br>during those last days, and when there was the release of the protocol, I<br>would add:<br><br>Evidences are lacking, and what is really lacking is the medical, AND the<br>clinical aspect, of inflammation thru "hyperlactation", how<br>"hyperlactation" entails some inflammation, how do you want us to explain<br>if we don't have the mechanics; it is just a thing a mom reacted about....<br>there are other evidences which are lacking. [...]Elien Rouw2023-09-12T10:58:34+02:002023-09-12T10:58:34+02:00Mastitis Protocolhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;a23a1054.2309BThanks, Naomi and Pamela, for your reactions.<br><br>Some things I have seen that all (Anne, Pam, Monica) are agreeing on, and could be helpful in the clinical management:<br>- There is far too much antibiotics prescription on mastitis that probably is not bacterial, but an inflammation through pressure (too much milk, edema, false positioning etc).<br>- The idea of one plugged duct has to be evaluated - since they are far too small to be felt individually<br>- Deep massage is harming the tissue and contributing to the inflammation, so should not be recommended<br>- Too much pumping may aggravate [...]Elien Rouw2023-09-12T09:45:36+02:002023-09-12T09:45:36+02:00AW: Lactnet Mastitis protocolhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;57992a32.2309BNaomi,<br><br>Thank you for your kind response and I will give your praise further to the Protocol Committee. It is difficult, but through discussions like this we bring the field forwards.<br><br>Elien<br><br>Elien Rouw<br><br>Im Wasserbett 7<br><br>77815 Bühl<br><br>Tel: 07223-900302<br><br>Email: ElienRouw@t-online.de<br><br>Von: Naomi Bar-Yam<br>Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. September 2023 03:03<br>An: elienrouw@T-ONLINE.DE; Lactation Information and Discussion <LACTNET@COMMUNITY.LSOFT.COM><br>Betreff: Lactnet Mastitis protocol [...]Naomi Bar-Yam2023-09-10T01:03:20+00:002023-09-10T01:03:20+00:00Lactnet Mastitis protocolhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;d29f2f8b.2309BElien,<br><br>Thank you for your clear comments on the mastitis protocol. Protocols and reviews are indeed complex, highly specialized, research is lacking, and often not very good quality. This all makes it quite difficult to write and review protocols for others to use in their own practice.<br><br>Thanks to ABM and all those who so generously give their time and expertise to write and review protocols. [...]Pamela Morrison2023-09-09T20:37:02+01:002023-09-09T20:37:02+01:00ABM Protocol # 36, Mastitishttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;a4602f57.2309BEllen Rouw, thank you for taking the time and trouble to join the<br>conversation with your ABM President-Elect hat on. I think we all place<br>great reliance on the ABM protocols, and view them with great respect,<br>which is what makes #36 of special concern – it is unexpected for so many<br>of its recommendations to go against the observation, experience and<br>understanding of so many of us who ourselves have worked with breastfeeding<br>mothers for many years, and for whom prevention and treatment of<br>postpartum engorgement, mastitis, or abscess is almost a bread-and-butter<br>matter. [...]Elien Rouw2023-09-08T11:47:01+02:002023-09-08T11:47:01+02:00Mastitis Protocol ABMhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;a15e6113.2309BDear readers,<br><br>I don't write here often, but this time I want to react, also with my "hat"<br>President-Elect of ABM.<br>Thank you so much for the feedback on this Protocol. We already heared many<br>comments in this direction and we have made a few adaptations in the<br>process of writing and publishing a Protocol.<br>This said, I want also make a few additional comments:<br>1. The theme of Mastitis is highly complex and it also shows that we have<br>too few sound medical research in this field. For me it shows how women's<br>themes are forgotten in medicine. Google [...]Anna Swisher2023-09-07T17:05:33+00:002023-09-07T17:05:33+00:00Re: More on the ABM #36 Mastitis Protocolhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;b935a14f.2309AThank you for sharing this, Pamela. I read it cover to cover and it's fascinating.<br>While this is being thrashed out, I would treasure insights on how best to support families in the meantime.<br><br>Inquiring minds....<br>Anna SwisherTexas, USA<br>Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 10:24:51 +0100<br>From: Pamela Morrison <pamelamorrisonibclc@GMAIL.COM><br>Subject: More on the ABM #36 Mastitis Protocol [...]Pamela Morrison2023-09-06T10:24:51+01:002023-09-06T10:24:51+01:00More on the ABM #36 Mastitis Protocolhttps://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;82d15022.2309AOf interest to Lactnetters? A commentary by Pam Douglas published by IBJ<br>on the controversial ABM #36 Mastitis protocol, see<br>https://internationalbreastfeedingjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13006-023-00588-8<br><br>Pamela Morrison<br>IBCLC Retired, Rustington, EnglandPATRICIA YOUNG2023-08-08T12:48:01+00:002023-08-08T12:48:01+00:00Re: persistant nipple pain$https://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=LACTNET;541240d8.2308BLoved Dr Thorley's answer!<br>On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 01:39:33 AM EDT, Virginia Thorley <virginiathorley@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br>Loretta, the mother you mentioned was being treated with antibacterial and antifungal medications, unsuccessfully, and you asked what had been overlooked. It looks to me that mechanical causes have been overlooked, for which the first step should be attention to latch and the infant's position in relation to the mother's body.<br>It may well be that the medications didn't work because the cause of pain was mechanical. Only after the mother has been assisted to find a comfortable latch, and learned not to [...]