Hi Frank,
Not being American, I don't have First Amendment rights but I am quite
comfortable with the suitability of the case study paper and the way
in which we wrote it. The woman's whose experience it describes could
not write it and publish it herself as, given her previous experience
with child protection, she cannot afford not to be anonymous. And that
is something that I find regularly in my work with very marginalised
mothers, including those who are in gaol or who interact with the
child protection system. They don't have a voice unless someone is
willing to share their experiences. I recently had the experience
where I shared on Twitter about getting a call from a case worker
regarding a woman who was 36 weeks pregnant, in gaol with 2 months
left on her sentence and had just had her application to the
mother-baby unit in the gaol rejected. She was told she could express
milk and send it to the baby. People responded with horror as if this
was an unusual occurrence, not realising that what was unusual was not
a new mother with weeks left on her sentence being refused permission
to have her baby with her but that a case worker had contacted me on
her behalf and I had made her situation visible. As for moderation, I
am one the listmothers of Lactnet and at this point, I am OK with
people name calling etc if that is the only way they are prepared to
engage with the paper. I think that shutting down the conversation
would be detrimental. No one benefits if difficult issues cannot be
discussed.
Karleen GribbleAustralia
Date:    Sat, 11 Feb 2023 14:28:43 +0000
From:    "Frank J. Nice" 
Subject: First Amendment

Well, Karleen, so much for First Amendment rights for you to speak up.
I thought just being a citizen of our country guaranteed those rights
and not having to be a member of some community to be able to speak
out.
Where are the monitors of this sight allowing the vitriol occurring?
I have gotten in trouble for saying a lot less worse in the past than
what is being said about you.
I have a feeling we will hear something now.  I hope so.

Frank J. Nice, RPh, DPA, CPHP



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