Hi Kathleen,
I'm so glad you are better. We met years ago, even before you gave
birth to LACTNET. We have all benefitted so much from this forum.
When asked in a job interview how I stayed current, my first response was
"LACTNET"!!
Sincerely,
Jane Cullum Crotteau BSN, RNC, IBCLC '95 (ret.)
MMBNE Medical Board
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> 2. big heart/thank you/pacemaker OT TOPIC
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> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 02:17:41 -0400
> From: Debbie Tobin <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Breast Massage
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> Hi Laurie, good to hear from you!
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> In a message dated 4/13/2016 Laurie writes:
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> <<<<Do you have a favorite technique, video, article about this?>>>>
> Video, article, no, ...I found the video you mentioned and it looks good,
> ...as we know it can be a little (or alot) more challenging with freshly
> postpartum moms, working to gets those drops of colostrum expressed.
>
>
> Technique, yes. After quickly developing a good rapport with mom (in a
> seemingly very unhurried manner) saying positive and soothing things, and
> helping mom relax (while simultaneously calming baby among other
> things)...then
> positioning her for comfort (pillows!), we would practice a deep cleansing
> breath "slowly in through your nose and out through your lips" while I
> stroke her shoulders downward and say something like "just release that
> tension, ...oh yes, very good, so much better, let that tension flow down
> your
> arms and out your fingertips, ... that will help the milk just come
> right_on_down" while doing light effurage strokes towards the nipple
> during that
> last line.
>
> The tone of voice and delivery of these words seems to make *a world of
> difference*, it is similar to how it would sound if someone was trying to
> put
> you in a meditative or hypnotic state, you see the moms face go from tense
> anxiety to calm relief.
>
> Seems almost any type of massage will work as long as mom is comfortable
> with it, ...I tend to do fingertip little circles, working from outer
> margins in concentric circles to the nipple, much like a standard breast
> exam
> because I am also doing a breast exam, then stroking, kneading, gentle
> rolling
> between hands, maybe a little very gentle compressing here and there, then
> expressing a drop or two and saying in an almost hushed tone "wow look at
> that, ...when well latched-on (my thumb and fore fingertips are now placed
> where baby's lips should be) his tongue cupped and undulating (my other
> hand is somewhat miming this), your baby is sooo much better at getting
> that
> milk out than I am, and that looks like plenty of milk in there,
> excellent".
>
> I might need to repeat the relaxation routine, while calming or waking the
> baby saying in a non-hurried manner "...you are doing great, let's practice
> that again while I get the baby, cleansing breath iiiin and ouuut, relaaax
> those shoulders, release aaany tension, think about riiivers of milk
> flowing towwwards your nipples..." if you see her shoulders release and
> her eyes
> close to visualize rivers of milk, bingo!
>
>
> <<<<What is the length of time that you find productive? >>>>
> this all might take a few minutes, and I would do this or similar with
> just about every mom, very rarely not do such, ...the actual massage part
> could
> take a minute or two/breast (with non-engorged breast) I've probably often
> taken less than a minute/breast.
>
>
> Debbie Tobin RN BSN
> Retired (mostly) in the Virginia suburbs outside the Washington DC beltway
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> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:09:07 -0400
> From: Kathleen Bruce <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: big heart/thank you/pacemaker OT TOPIC
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> Dear Lactnet list, thank you so much for the good wishes, and the notes of
> prayer and love. I am better today and have turned the corner on what
> should have been a minor thing, but ended up major. Yipes.
>
> I was told that pacemaker insertion is an easy surgery, and it ended up to
> be exceedingly painful for me for the 2 weeks after the surgery. I am so
> relieved that it is slowly easing.
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> Thanks again, and thanks to Cathy for mentioning it to you all. Blessings
> to the list, and to all the mothers and babies that you help day to day.
> That is a huge pleasure for me, to know that what we started in 1995 is now
> 21 and "of age,"...haha. My fourth child, this list. I did not have to
> breastfeed it, and did not have to pay for college , luckily.
>
> My sense of humor is returning, thank my stars. Good day to all. Kathleen,
> the former listmother, back into lurking.
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