Is the apple flavored one the only one recalled? Or all Baby's Bliss Gripe Water? Thanks Sudha
Sudha Chandrasekhar MD
Gateway Pediatrics
www.greatcareforkids.com
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1. Human milk in the NICU
2. breastfeeding promotion bags (2)
3. slow gainer
4. Gripe water
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:53:48 -0500
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Subject: Re: Human milk in the NICU
Hi Christine,
I think the best approach in presenting information on the health of
human milk with the neonatologists you work with would be a dr. to dr.
level.
What kind of support system do you have? How many nurses and/or
managers agree with you? I wouldn't do this alone.
Also look at patient/parent satisfaction surveys. Hopefully the
clientelle can influence some changes. What do your nurse managers say
about using human milk as much as possible? Are the mothers providing
their own milk as much as possible? The large NICU in my hospital has a
Symphony pump in every single room.
Keep us posted in any changes in the attitudes at your workplace!
Best wishes.
Susan in Minnesota
rn ibclc
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:11:06 EDT
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Subject: breastfeeding promotion bags
I am looking for pre-printed bags that have a breastfeeding symbol on them.
Originally I wanted to get personalized bags but the plate cost and min. to
print is quite high. We will use them for the American Baby Faire in Nov. in
Chicago. They will also be used at other baby fair events in the area. The
amount of formula bags in women's hands is overwhelming. One of person has
contacted me but I would still like to see what is out there. We will need about
500 bags.
If you have any thoughts just e-mail me!
Annette Leibovitz
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:13:43 -0500
From: Kathy Eng <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: slow gainer
Anne wrote:
I am not aware of any tests that have been done on the baby, but I would =
think some are=20
warranted now. Formula isn't going to cure whatever is causing his weight=
gain problems=20
- and the thought of what it might introduce to his system is frightening=
...
Anne,
If mom's supply is too low, and baby is not gaining properly, then an artificial baby milk must be used if nothing human if available. Formula certainly will cure his weight gain problems if mom's supply is too low!!! It will add calories and baby will gain weight.
Now, I dislike formula also, but I would hate more to force slow gaining babies to continue their lack of calories if this is the cause of the poor weight gain. That is more cruel than giving formula. A person or baby who is not eating enough feels miserable. It would be unethical for an IBCLC not to advise a mother to feed baby enough by whatever method it takes if this baby is not gaining weight properly and just breastfeeding is not making him gain weight.
I'd like to see some test weights with an appropriate scale on a feeding or two. Perhaps intake is fine and baby is just slow to grow. Perhaps intake is poor and baby is starving.
Dr. Smylie and Laurie Wheeler already addressed the other issues.
I am also dismayed at this trend to blame mom's possible/potential hormonal problems for poor weight gain when test weights with an appropriate scale have not been done, no one has seen the baby to address proper latch on, possible tongue tie, oral motor problems, etc. When no one has sat and watched the nursing session, and done test weights through an entire feeding, it can be impossible to guess what is going on.
I have seen so many problems that moms describe totally differently on the phone. Email consultations are very problematic as you do not know what is really going on because you can not see mom or the baby in person. I have worked with many many starving babies and one of these was one that mom swore was having issues with food allergies. The real reason he cried all the time was poor intake and starvation.
The slow return to birth weight is a big red flag. If baby did not nurse well in the first week, because baby came early and was sleepy due to the pain medicine from the epidural, mom's milk supply may not have been stimulated enough to establish a full supply of milk producing cells unless she was removing milk another way. What happens sometimes is mom has enough for the early days but when baby starts needing more per feeding, then the baby stops gaining weight.
I did not read your email and do the math for myself, I take what Laurie said and assume the weight gain is just somewhat slow to normal. But if mom feels something is not right, then she needs a full lactation consultation with test weights and someone who knows how to read baby's breastfeeding language.
Kathy Eng, BSW, IBCLC
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:19:48 -0400
From: Debbi Heffern <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: breastfeeding promotion bags
Noodle Soup has Babies Were Born to be Breastfed bags.
go here:=20=20
http://www.noodlesoup.com/index.asp?PageAction=3DVIEWCATS&Category=3D=
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(No financial interest, just happy with our experience.)
Debbi Heffern
St. Louis, MO
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:56:33 -0400
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Subject: Gripe water
Wendy,
These are the ingredients in the brand of gripe water you recommend:
Active ingredient: Sodium Bicarbonate BP 1.0% w/v. Also
contains Dill oil BP, Caraway oil BP Sucrose and Parabens.
The infant gut is not meant to digest sucrose.=20
Parabens are toxic:
From:
http://www.terressentials.com/truthaboutparabens.html
"The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in their report
"Pharmaceuticals and Personal Care Products in the Environment: Agents
of Subtle Change?" reported that the chemical preservatives called
parabens=E2=80=94methyl, propyl, butyl and ethyl
(alkyl-p-hydroxybenzoates)=E2=80=94displayed estrogenic activity in several
tests. This means that these chemicals mimic your body=C2=B4s own
hormones and can have endocrine-disrupting action when they are rubbed
into your body or washed down the drain into your drinking water. These
disruptors interfere with your body=C2=B4s endocrine system: your
hypothalamus, your ovaries, your thyroid=E2=80=94virtually every system in y=
our
body."
"Colic" is often resolved by removing foods from the mother's diet or treati=
ng structural problems.=C2=A0 Otherwise, I suggest castor oil packs when bab=
ies have upset tummies. We have no idea what these products do to babies' gu=
t integrity.
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Jennifer Tow, IBCLC, CT, USA
Intuitive Parenting Network LLC
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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:04:44 +0200
From: Wendy Blumfield <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: gripe water
Re the recall of Bliss gripe water with apple flavour, do any British=20
Lactnetters have information on Nurse Harvey`s Gripe Water which has been th=
e=20
classic colic remedy since my own kids were babies. It is sold here in Isra=
el=20
and checking the ingredients there do not seem to be any preservatives or fo=
od=20
colouring - and it is effective. It is a myth that b/f babies never get tum=
my=20
ache - my 10-week old grandson feeds non-stop and gives a burp to be proud o=
f.=20
However he does suffer from colic and I recommended N.H.Gripe Water as one o=
f=20
the few remedies that don`t add sugar/additives etc.
Wendy Blumfield
NCT ANT Tutor/BFC
Israel Childbirth Education Centre
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