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From: "Regina M. Roig-Romero, Bs Ibclc" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [LACTNET] BF and Sleep & Not All Needs Are Caloric
**Hi Regina (and all),
**I could easily have left standing here *all* of your post, because I found
it very true and very well said. Gosh... the mails I consider worth keeping
instead of deleting are becoming so numerous... I'm afraid that when I throw
them away, it will be so difficult to find them back in the flood of mails
in the archives! ;-)
Anyway, back to the topic at hand:
"That's why one of my favorite things to say to them lately in a new baby
class is, "The reason he woke up is because you put him down." Talk
about a conversation starter! LOL...."
**This and many other remark is interesting and a beautiful summary of loads
of anthropological theories. I love statements like these. Then again...
(Gonneke and Erica, please give complementary (= extra) comments if I'm not
being complete) I find that in the Netherlands those who take this
standpoint, are often considered 'alternative', 'fanatic', 'obstinate',
trying to push through some kind of weird, exaggerated view. "I raised my
kids so and so and they came out well!", you often hear, as a defense for
formula and CIO. I'm just *so* fed up with it... :-(
My collegue and I wrote a statement as two individual lc's, that was
supported by the bf organisations, the professional lc organisation, the
IBFAN-group, the BFHI-group and the most important website on bf in the
Netherlands, to the governmental organisation that is about to implement an
official guideline on these abnormal, unnatural 'rules' to prevent excessive
crying. All the issues mentioned here (too much to do during the day to care
for a baby, no idea what baby's needs are, unrealistic expectations of a
life with a baby, not enough interhuman physical and psychological
communication) are completely ignored in that guideline. The professional
psychologist organisation made an evidence based statement and so did we. We
are now, on the basis of our statement, invited to a new round of talks!
Most of you won't be able to read the Dutch, but I'll post the link
nevertheless... ;o)
http://www.borstvoeding.com/files/LactatiekundigereactieConceptrichtlijn.080625.pdf
Anyway, my point is: how to prevent that you're being viewed as a fanatic
(my... Jaye... I would love to phrase it like you did: child abuse!) and be
dismissed as an HCP that is to be taken seriously? How to prevent that as
soon as you are backing up your view with research or standing up for the
babies (because that, in fact, is what we do!!), you get a defensive
reaction from those you are talking to, because you somehow elicit guilt and
that leads to a defensive attitude...? Here, you don't even have to go very
far, in my region, to be denounced. As polite and as factual as I am, they
still say: "We did not feel respected by you", but I don't feel like
shutting up when a nurse and an lc both say that things are okay, when in
fact mom is having bleeding, cracked nipples. When they want to solve that
by pumping and not by adjusting latch, then as an lc, *I* feel I have to
(and should, according to the Code of Ethics) come up with suggestions to
improve the situation, because otherwise the mother is not respected!
The more I know, the easier it is to fully observe what goes on and then,
the more there is that I'd like to improve ánd the more there is I deeply
disapprove of... How to get out of that circle? How to address everything,
in an environment that is still so hostile towards empathetic baby care and
breastfeeding? I truely find that difficult... I hate those old wives tales
being repeated again and again and again, and me sitting there saying
nothing, although I know that they will set back this persons neighbour,
once she is about to start breastfeeding, because she believes all the
rubbish she heard... :-s
Pfff... still *SO* much to do! Where to start? Educating young children, to
raise a new generation that knows better? You know, it's 10.19... I'll start
with making a breakfast to get my bloodsugars up! hahaha
Warmly,
Marianne Vanderveen, Netherlands (who spend the Tuesday and Wednesday with
her lc-collegue who's a midwife, too; what an impressive day, how great to
see Step 4 seriously, lovingly practiced!)
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