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Renata Oliveira Mangrum <[log in to unmask]>
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What is "wind" supposed to be? Is it also caused by another name? Then again
maybe it is good that I don't know what that is because I would have thought
of a heart defect first anyway (due to hearing about a case of a preschooler
having open heart surgery... a blue coloring was one of the signs).

Renata Mangrum, MPH, RD.
http://nurturingnotes.blogspot.com
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On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:24 AM, heather <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> We are obsessed with babies having what we call 'wind' in the UK - the back
> thumping and patting that mothers think they have to do is crazy (***why***
> would a series of thumps on the *back* get rid of air in the *stomach*? If
> an adult feels bloated, windy, flatulent or whatever, does he/she get their
> partner to backslap for half an hour? No.....I think not. Sounds extremely
> irritating, too)
>
> I have permission to share the following story - the mother wants people to
> know what happened and I offered to post her experiences. I don't think I
> included Lactnet when I first wrote about it earlier this year.
>
> Joanna is the mother, and Tom is the baby. Born at term, normal weight, not
> got details, sorry.
>
> Over a period of 4.5 weeks,  Joanna experienced continuous difficulties
> with Tom staying on the breast. He kept latching and then coming off, again
> and again. He gained well in week 2 and then lost weight in week 3 and then
> gained a little in week 4.  Output normal. But he did not stay on the breast
> well at all.
>
> His lips were often blue after a feed, and his hands and feet were always
> very cold.
>
> The mum was told by her healthcare professionals (several of them, over
> these weeks, who actually saw the baby) that  lots of babies have cold feet,
> and that the blue lips were normal  - and that blue lips show the baby has
> 'wind'.  This is a common idea in the UK, though sometimes it is a blue
> tinge above the lip that is supposed to be a sign of wind.
>
> Anyway.....did Tom 'have wind'? No. He was cyanotic and the continued and
> increased difficulty with breathing and feeding was affecting his growth and
> risking his life at every feed. A vigilant health visitor (one she had not
> seen before) at a breastfeeding support group Joanna happened to go to
> spotted it. Joanna was at the group because everyone had told her she had a
> problem with her milk supply  and little Tom's on-off feeding was due to
> wind (they'd seen the proof in the blue lips, after all) . Anyway, this HV
> saw the blue lips and sent Joanna and Tom immediately to hospital - not even
> stopping off at home first.
>
>
> Within a very short time (an hour or so, I think), Tom was diagnosed with a
> major heart defect (transposition of the great arteries) and several holes
> in the heart. He had an operation later that same day, which saved his life.
>
> He had a more permanent op some weeks later, and Joanna has managed to keep
> some breastfeeding going, last I heard, together with expressing.
>
> Heather Welford Neil
> NCT bfc, tutor, UK
>
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