Dear friends,
Do male OB-GYN's have chaperons while doing vaginal exams? Do female nurses have chaperons when washing male patients? Do male plastic surgeons have chaperons when examining breasts for reduction or enhancement? Do we really want to have only female docs for female patients (and can they be lesbian?)? Is it OK for a male doc to visit female patients if he is gay?
I really do not think the quality is within the gender, nor is the possible sexual harrassment. Quality is in the mindset, in the empatic skills. I really do not think gender is the issue, cultural and personal mindset are.
Warmly,
Gonneke IBCLC in PP, LC lecturer in southern Netherlands
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Speaking of this issue - had a male nursing supervisor ask about getting certified as a lactation consultant. He's not a neonatal nurse, ob nurse, pediatrician and hasn't done hands-on help ever. A good fella, basically. Maybe he's watched the office. The male ibclc's that exist - are they not mostly pediatricians or obstetricians or midwives and have dealt with the mother on a more long-term basis? I appreciate all the work by Hartmann and all the other breastfeeding champions and researchers, such as Jeliffe, etc, but I think it would be very hard to jump in this field from scratch without establishing a foundation ahead of time. Would not a male lactation consultant need a chaperone when doing a breast exam? Are there no concerns of protection in a litigious environment? My s-i-l who is a PIANO TEACHER has to teach in rooms with glass window in them to avoid any possibility of being accused of sexual assault and that is regardless of
whether it is male or female student! I agree with Liz that the consent MUST be obtained before working with anyone because of these rare but terrible possibilities to protect the consultant. Just something to think about.
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From: Lactation Information and Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nikki Lee
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:22 AM
Subject: personal experience
Dear Friends:
Intention, what is in one's heart, is what truly matters when doing any sort of counseling or health consulting work.
Jack Newman, Michel Odent, Lennart Righard, Marsden Wagner, Jay Gordon, Frank Nice, James Akre, James Grant, Thomas Hale, Michael Rosenthal (and lord knows how many other men) are guiding lights in the arena of birth and breastfeeding. I have to honor a local OB, the late Dr. Gandhi Nelson from Sri Lanka, who taught me more about natural birth than many midwives.
Some of the best bf helpers are women that either failed at breastfeeding or never did it; they are determined that no other woman or baby should suffer.
In days gone by, one was called to be a healer. There was a spiritual component. People didn't go into the work to earn money and gain power. They were supported by their communities and got all they needed to live; this is still true in some parts of the world.
The industrial revolution has led to the value of currency over commitment; we are all suffering as a result. The people we revere are those who are heart-centered in their work. Heart-centered work is not gender specific.
One's life experience can awaken the heart but this is not essential.
warmly,
Nikki Lee RN, BSN, Mother of 2, MS, IBCLC, CCE, CIMI craniosacral therapy practitioner www.breastfeedingalwaysbest.com
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