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I am sure that I have seen  pictures of the moms breastfeeding around the 
gorilla cage at the zoo, so I  decided to try to track down the story. A fellow 
La Leche League Leader thought  that Nancy Mohrbacher had been personally 
involved, so I contact her. Here is  her reply: 
Hi Kathy,

The gorilla story is featured in my  new book, Breastfeeding Made Simple: 
Seven Natural Laws for Nursing Mothers,  which I co-authored with Kathy 
Kendall-Tackett, and it comes from an old La  Leche League News article. The zoo was in 
Ohio and I was not personally  involved, although I often retold this story 
to the mothers I helped and I  sometimes tell it in my talks to lactation 
consultants.

Mothers I worked  with often said that they felt "stupid," because they were 
having trouble doing  something as "natural" as breastfeeding.  The story is a 
great way to get  the point across that  breastfeeding is a learned 
behavior--and not just  among human beings, but among higher primates as well.  This 
story made  many mothers feel better about their struggles.

I hope this helps.   Please feel free to share this with Lactnet.

Nancy Mohrbacher,  IBCLC

I then tried a Google search and found a transcript of an  interview with 
wildlife expert and director emeritus of the Columbus, Ohio Zoo,  Jack Hanna from 
the 'Countdown with Keith Olbermann' show for Feb.  21.  
 

 
OLBERMANN:  Well, it certainly would have  been a novel explanation for that 
whole Janet Jackson business a year ago.   But seriously, is this even 
possible?  


We turn now to wildlife expert, director of the  emeritus of the Columbus, 
Ohio Zoo, and 30-year veteran of gorilla study, Jack  Hanna.   
Jack, good evening.   Thanks for your time.   
JACK HANNA, WILD LIFE  EXPERT:  Thank you.   
OLBERMANN:  Is there some  explanation here that does not involve somebody at 
this gorilla foundation  having gone nuts?   
HANNA:  I can‘t  understand—I don‘t know what happened out there, but 
gorillas are very social  animals.  Back in 1982, Columbus, Ohio, by the way, had 
the first gorilla  ever born in the world in 1956.  We have four generations of 
gorillas, the  only twin gorillas, so, we know gorillas.  And after I visited 
Rwanda and  Uganda, I‘ve studied these animals in the wild as well.  They‘re 
very, very  intelligent.  In 1982, in the early years, zoos took the babies 
away from  the mothers right away, because they were so valuable.  But now we 
know how  to breed, and they must—they must learn from the mothers.   
So, in ‘82, La Leche League,  which are women that breast feed.  We had about 
15 women that volunteered  breast feed in front of the gorillas.  We shut our 
doors.  It was a  serious thing, because any gorillas that were pregnant or 
becoming pregnant  could watch women breast feed, and that‘s how our gorillas 
started learning  about how to take care of their young.   
Now we leave every gorilla  with the mother, unless, it‘s absolutely 
necessary to take a gorilla, because  they have to stay there to learn.  Now what—
Penny, has done a great job out  there with her gorillas in California. I don‘t 
know what these women were asked  to do or anything else.  The gorillas are 
very, very rare, very  endangered.  And it‘s a serious thing when we breed a 
gorilla, and a very  world renowned thing when Columbus or any zoological park 
breeds the  gorillas.   
_http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7011497/_ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7011497/) 
 
Kathy
 

Kathleen  Fallon Pasakarnis, M.Ed. IBCLC
Nurturing Family Lactation and Parenting  Services

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