It's comforting to know that here in the southeastern US we can always get a
job at the front door of Walmart handing out smiley face stickers to
children and checking receipts when we retire as contracting
archaeologists:):):)
Dan Allen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pam Asbury-Smith" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: definition of an 'archaeologist' ?
> Retirement; OK, then... how about an IRA? (Nothing to do with Ireland,
> in
> this instance...) There are plenty of plans for people who don't have
> anything through employment, but you have to make an effort to find a good
> one and invest. Even 5 bucks a week adds up. I'm fortunate enough to
> have
> a pension from another career, but I've always worked for a company with
> 401K options and have taken advantage of every one. Oh, and I'm retiring
> next spring.
>
> Paul... I also know an archaeologist with 25+ years of experience, who is
> very conscientious and does excellent work, but has no degree. The
> result
> is that he's almost always "crew", working for someone with a degree but
> only a couple years experience.
>
> Pam Asbury-Smith
> SRI Tucson
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "paul courtney" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 3:29 PM
> Subject: Re: definition of an 'archaeologist' ?
>
>
>> Swap you the back and knees and shoulders. Actually I was think of
>> graduating to begging in old age despite having a personal pension plan.
>> Personally I have more degrees than I know what to do with but some of
>> the
>> best archaeologists I know (on quality of work) haven't got a degree in
>> anything. I also know loads of graduates who call themselves
>> post-medievalists/historical archaeologists who haven't read a book since
>> school if ever, couldn't tell a sherd of Buckley from Saintonge, think Le
>> Creusot (the French equivalent of Sheffield for you insular Yanks) is a
>> range of pans or a French marxist philosopher and get confused between
>> the
>> Reformation and the Dissolution and wouldn't recognise a verb if it hit
> them
>> in the face, and their digging is so bad Wheeler would have had them
>> lined
>> up and pitched in the latrine pit.
>>
>> paul courtney
>> Leicester UK
>> See you in the bar at York- mine's a pint of Landlord
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dan Allen" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: definition of an 'archaeologist' ?
>>
>>
>> >I worked for a CRM'er with broad local, state, and federal contacts for
>> >a
>> > decade with no health insurance most of the time, no education
>> > benefits,
>> > no
>> > 401k's, no overtime even with long hours on rushed projects, less pay
> than
>> > a
>> > primary educator, lots of parasites and bodily environmental
>> > degradation
>> > including clay shoveler's back. Benefits included workman's comp
> (really
>> > designed to limit an employers liability) and the benefit of a doubt. I
>> > slowly figured out that I would have to retire myself if it was ever
> going
>> > to happen and hung out my own shingle. Contract firms with decent
> benefit
>> > packages are scarce around here. The only retirees I've seen are from
>> > state
>> > positions. Show me the money:):):)
>> >
>> > Dan Allen
>> > Cumberland Research Group, Inc.
>> > and
>> > GRA @ the Center for Historic Preservation at MTSU
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Pam Asbury-Smith" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:51 PM
>> > Subject: Re: definition of an 'archaeologist' ?
>> >
>> >
>> >> So, what... you've never heard of a 401K??
>> >>
>> >> Pam Asbury-Smith
>> >> SRI/Tucson
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Dan Allen" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:47 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: definition of an 'archaeologist' ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I agree with Ron May which is one reason why I continue to support
>> >> conflict
>> >>> theory:):):) I've also never heard of anyone retiring with a pension
>> >>> from
>> >> a
>> >>> consulting archaeological firm. Are we being snookered?
>> >>>
>> >>> Dan Allen
>> >>> Cumberland Research Group, Inc.
>> >>> and
>> >>> Graduate Research Assistant
>> >>> Center for Historic Preservation @ MTSU
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Ron May" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:28 AM
>> >>> Subject: Re: definition of an 'archaeologist' ?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> > Have you ever noticed that as people advance in rank, they set the
>> >>> > standard
>> >>> > behind them higher for those who follow them? I recall the local
>> >>> > consulting
>> >>> > archaeologists patting themselves on the back for convincing local
>> >>> > agencies to
>> >>> > require SOPA (now RPA) certification as a measure for practicing
>> >>> > archaeology,
>> >>> > which eliminated the competition.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Ron May
>> >>> > Legacy 106, Inc.
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
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