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Justin Kay <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 17 May 2017 16:21:58 -0400
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> >I seem to recall that much of the rub on beesource at the time was that
> Keith would not give that crowd the formula for his pollen substitute.
> Personally I fully understood Keith's position.  He did give everyone
> enough clues at the time that with a bit of understanding of basic
> nutrition, plus some experimentation and hard work they could have pretty
> much replicated the formula.
>

I remember it somewhat differently. I viewed Keith's posts somewhat more
cryptic than that. Clearly he was attempting to give some information, but
I lacked the experience or nutritional education to do anything with it. I
suspect the vast majority of BeeSource members were in identical positions.
When follow up questions were asked on how to make it, he'd decline. When
people offered to buy it, he only offered it in truck load, FOB in CA.
Which begged the question, if the average (or maybe even the advanced)
BeeSource user could replicate it, why are you giving clues? If the average
BeeSource user couldn't buy it, what are we talking about? That sparked the
rub.

Don't get me wrong. I understood his position as well. I probably wouldn't
have even given the clues.

The sub itself is quite different,  you can find a video on you tube if you
> like, but bottom line is its pretty oily and soft. A lot like pizza dough.
> Unsupported on top bars it will run off slowly over a period of hours.


I've seen the videos years ago. Both of the sub itself, and the effect it
had on his colonies. Looks very impressive. But last I heard, he would only
sell pallets (or the equivalent) of the stuff, FOB in CA. That may have
changed. But tough to get the benefit of the improved nutrition for a
sideline operator in NC. But I'm sure he makes more money doing it his way.

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