>So, Randy, and who will eat that pollen? Right, for most the larvae!

Ghislain, you really should read my articles--they are available at
ScientificBeekeeping.com.  Larvae don't necessarily eat pollen--it appears
to be more of a contaminant.  They are fed jelly.

 Do you know that the recognition procedures for neonics by Bayer -
certainly in

> Europe - didn't even foreseen in tests on larvae?
>

The LD50 for bee larvae by neonics has not been determined since they
appear to be completely unaffected by them.  Perhaps the receptor is not
yet developed in larvae.

>
> > A definitive survey recently conducted across the Corn Belt and Canada
> demonstrates that bees are exposed to only very low levels of clothianidin
> in either corn pollen, or canola pollen and nectar.
>
> >And yet! Please read this extract from the very recent EFSA analyze:
>

Thank you!  I especially noted this part: "However, it is noted that these

> assessments were only conducted for illustrative purposes and should not be
> considered as a definitive risk assessment.  Similar assessments were
> conducted with a slightly lower sublethal chronic endpoint, where effects
> on foraging were observed, but there was no impact
> on colony development.
>

Ghislain, the point is that even if someone calculates that there could be
a theoretical effect, every actual field trial in corn or canola has found
that the bees do fine, and winter fine.  As a beekeeper, I am more
interested in what happens in real life than what happens in someone's
speculation.
-- 
Randy Oliver
Grass Valley, CA
www.ScientificBeekeeping.com

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