> In fact she did say *at the time* and also a year later at another of her
> presentations i attended * capensis like traits*. Not thelytoky as all she
> was seeing.
>
> With a full room of beekeepers its hard to dispute what was said. As I
> remember correctly you were not in the presentation.


It's been a while, but it seems to me that, at the time, you were referring 
to the previous Phoenix meeting, and, if you were, both Aaron and I were in 
the room, as I recall.

At any rate, knowing both you and Dr. Degrandi-Hoffman about equally well, I 
would take her word about what she said over your version of what she said. 
Moreover, in the event she misspoke herself, that, her statement presented 
here indicates what she was trying to say and what she means.

> I have got the tape recording of her presentation and attended both of her
> presentations.

You say you have the tape.  Well, let's hear it. 

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