I read the post and just realized it was asking about the *mom* with cf! How
embarrassing!
Janette LLLL Beaverton,OR
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Subject: LACTNET Digest - 18 May 1998 to 19 May 1998 - Special issue
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>Topics in this special issue:
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> 1. Developmental "flunkie"
> 2. update on deep breast pain after nursing
> 3. Lactation Failure
> 4. breast feeding with CF
> 5. Mother Baby Journal
> 6. the four month weight drop
> 7. Mom smothers baby in bed
> 8. vaccines
> 9. stroking baby's cheek
> 10. herbal infor.
> 11. Reading Rainbow
> 12. Introduction/HELP needed for mom with unusual PPD
> 13. Cholesterol Levels
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>Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:59:47 EDT
>From: CarolRNLC <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Developmental "flunkie"
>
>"He didn't have a clue what the bottle was for, and I told the examiner
so."
>
>That's OK, Pauli, my son flunked the Peabody Picture Vocabulary test--he
had
>no idea what an iron was for! ;-)
>
>Carol
>in resort-weather St. Louis
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>Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 00:20:23 EDT
>From: LaverneFN <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: update on deep breast pain after nursing
>
>Dear Lactnetters
>
>Thank you to all who e-mailed me privately about the woman experiencing
>radiating deep breast pain after nursing. I think we have narrowed it down
to
>a clogged duct or galactoseal. She will be seen Thursday by a breast
feeding
>friendly MD. The pain has quit radiating down her back but does radiate
from
>nipple to arm pit. She has noticed that stimulating the flow of breast
milk
>will cause the pimple to "grow". Her appt in person cleared up the
>misinformation. Thanks again for your help.
>
>Karen Taylor RN IBCLC
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:31:05 +1200
>From: Robyn Dunning <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Lactation Failure
>
>Dear Lactnetters
>I have a mother who has complete lactation failure. She breastfed her first
>baby for 10 months with no problems and was looking forward to
breastfeeding
>this new baby. After 4 days not a drop of colostrum could be obtained. She
>commenced double pumping and using the SNS, but now at 4weeks post- partum
>there is still no milk, not a drop.
>Tests have been done for thyroid function which are normal.Blood tests show
>that prolactin levels are low even after breastfeeding. She does not seem
>to have retained products. Her placenta was complete and her vaginal loss
>has been normal and has now ceased. She has had no tragedy in her life
>recently.
>
> Her baby loves to be at the breast so she always feeds with the SNS.
>
>This mother is devastated and would like to know if there is any hope of
>getting up a milk supply. Is there anything further that should be
>investigated?
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Robyn Dunning
>RGON, RM, IBCLC
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 00:34:54 EDT
>From: LaverneFN <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: breast feeding with CF
>
>Dear Lactnetters
>
>Today a woman was induced that has Cystic Fibrosis. She is planning to
>breastfeed. One of the perinatal nurses told me that breast milk has to be
>tested for sodium content before actually nursing. My research talks about
>the possibility of breastfeeding compromising an already "compromised"
woman,
>but not about blanketly testing breastmilk for sodium levels. Does anyone
>have updated info about this?
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 00:48:13 EDT
>From: PQProducts <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Mother Baby Journal
>
>Hi Netters,
>
>The May 1998 Vol. 3 No. 3 Mother Baby Journal has an Editorial Comment by
>Jeanette Zaichtin, RNC, MN that invites feedback. LC's are represented as
>"self righteous and fanatic" and the ABM rep as "a victim of
circumstance". I
>encourage you to read it and respond to the editor. I can fax you copies of
>the editorial if you will respond to me privately.
>Karen Querna
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:03:30 +0000
>From: Moshe and Susan Srebrnik <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: the four month weight drop
>
>I have noticed many of the babies in my practice start to have problems
>gaining weight at four months. I think it may have to do with 2
>factors:
>
>1. Many mothers start to go back to work after 3 months.
>2. The mothers become lax after a few months taking care of themselves.
> They start running around too much, don't rest as much as they
> should, don't spend as much nursing time with the baby...
>
>Of course, the clinic nurses love to tell the moms that they have no
>more milk so start the formula! I advise the women to spend more time
>with the baby, rest, make sure they aren't going overboard with the
>dieting and take fenugreek. Within a week or two, the milk supply
>"magically" comes back.
>
>Susan Nachman-Srebrnik, IBCLC
>Ranana, Israel
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:53:47 -0800
>From: Venus <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Mom smothers baby in bed
>
>>Any suggestions besides
>>#1: we don't know the facts #2: So don't jump to any conclusions #3:
>>research shows mothers do not roll over on their babies #4: Could this
be
>>SIDS or infanticide by a severely postpartum depressed mother
>
>How about: research shows that babies that co-sleep are actually
>LESS likely to die of SIDS (providing the parent isn't drunk or
>drugged).
>
>I'll look for the actual references, if you like, but right now we've
>just moved (yesterday) and have yet to find anything...
>
>Jennifer Landels, BA, CE
>Vancouver BC
>
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>
>Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:24:20 -0800
>From: Venus <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: vaccines
>
>>BTW BF babies have better responces to vaccines.
>
>Obviously. BF babies have better responses to everything.
>
>However, if we "BF fanatics" object to assaulting our babies with
>oral bovine and soy products, perhaps we should also question the
>wisdom of assaulting their bloodstreams and immature immune systems
>directly with viral cocktails containing such delightful substances
>as chicken proteins, thimerosal, and human blood products. Sure
>we've all been taught that vaccination is safe and effective
>preventative medicine, but we've also been told that abm is "safe"
>too...
>
>I'm not pro- or anti- vaccine, just skeptical and suspicious by
>nature. As far as long-term health goes, I'd lay my money on the
>breasfed, unvaccinated child over the non-breastfed, vaccinated one
>any day.
>
>Jennifer Landels, BA, CE
>Vancouver BC
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:22:25 +0000
>From: Moshe and Susan Srebrnik <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: stroking baby's cheek
>
>Hi Rob,
>
>From my experience, stroking a baby's cheek causes more confusion than
>it's worth. A little trick I learned from a shiatsu massage therapist
>is gently rubbing the palm of the baby's hand with your thumb. Works
>great for newborns. I also put little sleepy babies in the football
>position which keeps them awake longer.
>
>Regards,
>
>Susan Nachman-Srebrnik, IBCLC
>Ranana, Israel
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:35:46 +0000
>From: Moshe and Susan Srebrnik <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: herbal infor.
>
>Attention ILCA:
>
>How about including lectures about herbals & lactation in the next
>conference? Also an article or two in the JHL.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Susan Nachman-Srebrnik, IBCLC
>Ranana, Israel
>who is very much into alternative medicine
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 03:53:19 -0400
>From: Gary and Vickie <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Reading Rainbow
>
>I saw the very same episode myself, I was not happy about them not showing
or
>making any mention of breastfeeding either... <sigh> the rest of it was
very
>interesting to my 3 year old who spent last night in the hospital with us
for
>eval of Prodromal Labour. I have seen on other programs where PBS has a
>website that you can access (if your computer is not being picky, like mine
is
>tonight...). It is at http://www.pbs.org I can't remember off hand if RR
has a
>page, but it might be a start. From what I have seen, this is pretty
common on
>RR, Kratt's Creatures, OTOH is excellent about portraying nursing couples
of
>all species. This week they showed some babies nursing from their moms and
my
>son was very interested in this and talked about it for several hours
after.
>Vickie
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 02:36:18 -0700
>From: Ben & Becky Bibik <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Introduction/HELP needed for mom with unusual PPD
>
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>California. I have two daughters, 3 yrs. old and 3 months old.
>
>I am working with a mom with an unusual situation. She is pregnant with =
>her 2nd child. She nursed her first until 1 year, but experienced =
>extreme feelings of depression and anxiety while nursing. These =
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>they did diminish somewhat in intensity as time went on.
>
>The mom did have a history of clinical depression, treated with Prozac, =
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>She wants to nurse this 2nd baby, but would like to enjoy it this time!
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>Thanks!
>
>Rebekah Bibik
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>Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 07:11:17 -0400
>From: CATHY BASTIAN <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Cholesterol Levels
>
>It would not be harmful for a nursing mother to eat a low fat, low
>cholesterol diet. Losing weight slowly, if appropriate, would also be
>safe while breastfeeding. If the cholesterol remains high after
>weaning, then more "drastic" measures can be entertained, i.e., drug
>therpy. A registered dietitian (RD) should be able to assist a nursing
>mother having high cholesterol with an appropriate diet. RD's are found
>in many outpatient settings or in private practice.
>Regards...Cathy Bastian, RD, IBCLC
>
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>
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