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>Date:     Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:24:54 -0500
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>Subject:  LACTNET Digest - 17 Nov 1996 to 18 Nov 1996 - Special issue
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>There are 16 messages totalling 425 lines in this issue.
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>Topics in this special issue:
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>  1. BF Clip Art
>  2. co-sleeping joke
>  3. obesity/high blood pressure (2)
>  4. Risperdal
>  5. Ezzo's address
>  6. Ezzo's Address
>  7. pleasure and breastfeeding (2)
>  8. Greetings
>  9. Frequent feeds
> 10. Cobalamin C deficiency
> 11. Theme for 1997 World Breastfeeding Wk
> 12. Fwd: Renewal of your subscription to the LACTNET list
> 13. Hair dryers
> 14. Teens produce less milk?
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>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 00:03:28 -0500
>From:    "Nicole Hester, LLL Leader" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: BF Clip Art
>
>Hi,
>
>Whoever sent me a request for the BF clip art, can you email me again please?
>I accidentally deleted your mail.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Nicole
>Date:    Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:27:38 -0700
>From:    Joya Bezette <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: co-sleeping joke
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>Hi friends;
>
>Okay, so I've got one to share also. Our lovely daughter, Lydia, nursed and
>kept nursing past several birthdays. It was harder for my husband to accept
>co-sleeping and extended breastfeeding in the early years than the later
>ones. (Boy, am I telling our secret!) At one point he said, and it became a
>favorite family joke:
>
>"Joya, Lydia is going to go on a date when she is sixteen, come home, crawl
>into bed with us, and want to nurse to sleep!"
>
>Well, folks, kids don't nurse past the point of wanting to. She has her own
>bed, sleeps very well without nightmares, is blossuming into a beautiful
>young lady, even before the dating age! (I'd love to brag on...) All's well
>that ends well.
>
>Always,
>
>Joya Bezette
>LLLL, WIC PC
>Waiting to hear about my BSC final exam score!
>Lactation Consultant almost
>Southern Utah
>Date:    Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:27:29 -0700
>From:    Joya Bezette <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: obesity/high blood pressure
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>Hi all;
>
>Am working with a WIC mother. There is a preliminary story here, but will
>side track it this time. She was hospitalized for some infection, baby fed
>ABM ever since, dr upset because she is so obese, has high blood pressure,
>and a family history of heart problems. The infant is about six weeks old.
>The dr wants her to wean, go on weight loss drugs, loose the weight fast. No
>thought of the infant. She is waiting to hear from the dr about thyroid test
>results. I asked her a lot of questions about how she felt about all this.
>She said he was scaring her, but she wanted to nurse her daughter. She is an
>experienced bf mother. She was interested in relactation, (she can still
>express milk), and working with the RD for a diet plan while bf. As I do not
>know the details of this woman's medical history, am I out of line giving
>her any hope to resume bf, against what the dr is saying? I have a mind to
>call him and talk to him about what we do at WIC, and if the mom isn't in a
>too critical condition, ask for his blessing to go with relactation, and the
>RD's menu plan. He can keep track of her health on a regular basis. I'm new
>at this, what do you think?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Joya Bezette
>LLLL, WIC PC
>Lactation Consultant (waiting for graduation)
>So. Utah
>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 00:34:07 -0500
>From:    Judy Eastburn IBCLC <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Risperdal
>
>Dear Dr. Hale:  I'm still working with the mother, 6 weeks pp who is
>Manic-Depressive.  Dr. has now switched her to Risperdal 1/nite.  Don't know
>the concentration of dosage.  She is currently pumping and dumping.  Do you
>know anything about this med for bf mothers?  Thanks...
>Judy Eastburn, B.S., IBCLC  Private Practice, Dallas, Tx.
>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 02:24:55 -0500
>From:    "Lisa Marasco, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Ezzo's address
>
>Dani and whomever else,
>Gary and Anne Marie Ezzo can be reached at the following address:
>
>GROWING FAMILIES INTERNATIONAL
>P.O. Box 8073
>Northridge, CA   91327
>
>(818) 772-6264
>Fax:  (818) 885-7011
>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:24:03 -0500
>From:    Sarah Barnett <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: obesity/high blood pressure
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>Joya
>        I think it is probably a good idea to get in touch with the doctor.
>Alternatively the mother could ask these very specific questions.
>There are several issues here that need to be clarified.
>        In terms of the mother- breastfeeding
>will help her to loose weight, there are probably blood-pressure meds
>that are compatible (haven't looked), regular RD consultations will speed
>weight loss etc.  Just how high is her blood pressure now?  Is it really
>high enough to justify extreme  measures?  What is the risk to the
>mother of slightly slower weight loss? Is she on a regular
>aerobic exercise program like walking or swimming?
>        In terms of the baby- There are long term consequences to the
>baby's health associated with ABM.  Some of the info in Marsha Walker's
>article on the risks of artificial infant feeding is probably in order
>here, as well as any references that you can share about the association
>of ABM feeding with later diabetes, obesity etc.  Is the pediatrician
>breastfeeding friendly?  Perhaps a comment about the advisability of
>breastmilk for the baby from ped would also help.
>        I would certainly want to be sure about all of these
>before planning a relactation program.
>
>Sarah Friend Barnett   LLLL, IBCLC
>Bronx (New York City), NY  -  [log in to unmask]
>" You are not obliged to finish the task,
> neither are you free to neglect it."       R. Tarfon
>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 03:29:17 -0800
>From:    Katharine West <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Ezzo's Address
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>I'm posting this here rather than personal reply as I thought others
>would like the info also. The Ezzo's can be reached through their Web
>Page reply section, which also includes their email address, and snail
>mail addresses in Chatsworth, CA. The organization is called Growing
>Families International (hence the gfi): http://www.gfi.org/GFI/home.html
>
>Katharine West, BSN, MPH, IBCLC
>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:51:29 EST
>From:    "Jeanette F. Panchula" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: pleasure and breastfeeding
>
>I'm way behind in reading - but my feelings with breastfeeding have been echoed
>by others when I describe them:
>
>Most of the time it's "warm and fuzzy" - but sometimes it feels _very good_
>like when my bladder is very full and the trip is long - and I finally get home
>and can _go_.
>
>Those full breasts when baby sleeps longer than usual - boy, did it feel good
>when baby finally latched on!
>
>Jeanette Panchula, BA-SW, LLLL, IBCLC, RN
>Puerto Rico - rainy and in the 80's today
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>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:06:32 -0800
>From:    Katharine West <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Greetings
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>Greetings to the Lactnetters from Southern California,
>
>I have been lurking long enough, and will declare my presence finally.
>I struggle to keep up with all the postings, let alone post anyting!
>
>About myself, I am an RN (since 1981) and have worked comprehensive
>Maternal-Child health areas (NICU, PICU, L&D). Presently I teach
>Computer Literacy and Nursing Informatics at Azusa Pacific University (I
>should have my APU web page up *real soon now*). I am also *yet again* a
>grad student, this time in the Family Nurse Practitioner program also at
>APU. My interest is infant survival. My thesis may be on extended
>breastfeeding (up to 6 years) in the US *or* it may be on the humane
>care of the VLBW a la the Marcovich model.
>
>I became IBCLC in 1988. I have been in private practice as an LC since
>1984, when I completed the UCLA LE program. I have published a few
>articles on breastfeeding which you may or may not have seen.
>
>My Public Health degree is in Maternal-Child Community Health with an
>emphasis on infant nutrition from UCLA, Department of Population/Family
>Health. While at UCLA, I had the great privilege of being a student of
>the late great Dr. Jelliffe, and advised by his wonderful wife, Patrice
>Jelliffe. They have had a profound influence on me - both personally and
>professionally. Other mentors of mine are Kittie Frantz and Chloe
>Fisher.
>
>One thing I'd like to add, I have been priveleged (yes, think about it -
>it *is* a privelege) to find myself in the role of a true consultant for
>lactation advisment to the Ezzos for their breastfeeding materials.
>Before you jump to your email reply and any conclusions, let me reassure
>you that I have had and still have the same concerns as you all do
>regarding attachment, schedules, etc. Remember who my mentors are to
>know what I believe and teach. The only difference between me and thee
>is that somehow I was fortunate to develop a relationship with them
>whereby I can talk issues over, provide information and data to
>persuade, and help them revise what they well know are contentious
>issues. I will do a posting another time on my interesting and, yes,
>rewarding work with them.
>
>And because my last name is West, sometimes young siblings of infants
>with whom I am consulting have inadvertently called me "Miss Breast".
>
>Until later, Katharine
>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:35:51 +0800
>From:    T & V Best <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Frequent feeds
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>Jonathan,
>I too thought that 300 grams a week weight gain was great, however, the
>clients doctor and the child health nurse both thought otherwise, that
>is why I asked for Lactnetters opinion.  I have been assured by the
>local child health nurse that 35 grams a day is expected, this is what
>they have in their manual she tells me.  I did tell the mum that I felt
>the gain was good.  I actually told the mum that I think the problem is
>lactose but just told her to try and keep feeding for longer before
>offering the other breast, I didn't tell her to only use one breast as
>you suggested, so will try that.
>Val in Busselton, Western Australia
>RN RM IBCLC
>Date:    Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:17:52 EST
>From:    Gladys Mason <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Cobalamin C deficiency
>
>     More info is needed about this infant to know if breastmilk can be
>     used.  You might pose this question to the medical team that is
>     working with this infants' care.
>Date:    Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:10:41 EST
>From:    Gladys Mason <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Theme for 1997 World Breastfeeding Wk
>
>     About 2 wks ago someone listed info about World Bfing Wk.  Could this
>     info please be repeated. I especailly want to know what the theme will
>     be. I goofed and deleted the info after I thought I printed it.
>     Thanks in advance.
>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:20:22 -0500
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>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:51:21 -0700
>From:    Kate Hallberg <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: pleasure and breastfeeding
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>At 06:51 AM 11/18/96 EST, Jeanette F. Panchula wrote:
>>Most of the time it's "warm and fuzzy" - but sometimes it feels _very good_
>>like when my bladder is very full and the trip is long - and I finally get
home
>>and can _go_.
>
>LOL!  I thought you were saying that you loved breastfeeding with a full
>bladder!
>
>I second the warm and fuzzy thoughts.  Since I'm 21 weeks pregnant it's
>gotten irritating though, and I've had to nightwean my two yo.  I've been
>sleeping on the guest bed and she and her dad sleep together.  Now that I
>don't have those long sessions at night I find that I enjoy the daytime
>nursing a lot more than I had been for a long time.  Context dependant
>enjoyment.
>
>Kate
>
>Let's not lose sight of the fact that ALL babies who are artificially fed
>are guinea pigs in the biggest human nutritional field experiment ever
>conducted.- Arly Helm
>
>http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~kolina/Home.html (my home page)
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>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:12:05 -0600
>From:    "Janice M. Riordan" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Hair dryers
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>In answer to Carol Schlef's dilemma in trying to find the citation re; not
>using hair dryers on vaginal area during pregnancy, I think the article is
>in the first issue of the ASPO journal. That must be about 1990-91. One of
>the clinical specialists here wrote it.
>
>Janice M. Riordan EdD, RN
>Associate Professor of Nursing
>Wichita State University
>316-682-0744
>Fax 316-682-0749
>Date:    Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:24:22 -0800
>From:    Diana Dietz <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Teens produce less milk?
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>Hi all,
>
>This comes from today's Atlanta Constitution newspaper:
>
>"Teenage mothers who breast-feed their infants produce one-fourth less
>milk than do adult mothers, a small study by the Children's Nutrition
>Research Center in Houston suggests. The smaller amount may not be
>enough to provide sole support of the infants' nutritional needs. The
>study looked at only 22 lactating mothers, 11 teens and 11 adults.
>Researchers said it's unclear whether teens aren't biologically capable
>of producing enough milk or if other factors, such as nurtrition, are
>involoved. The study also found that teen mothers tend to spend a
>shorter amount of time nursing, nursed less often and quit nursing
>sooner than adult mothers."
>
>Comments, anyone?
>
>Diana Dietz, RN, BSN    Georgia, USA
>Diana Designs -- designs that celebrate breastfeeding and mothers
>http://www.prairienet.org/community/health/laleche/diana.html
>

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