Hi all. I just thought I would run this again for anyone who hasn't seen it
lately. I have changed a few things today. I added the INDEX feature info,
added the Lactnet Archives on WWW http address, and also there is a change
in the percentage of subscribers who would need to agree to add a person
back into the list, should they be bumped due to bad manners...from 10% to
25% of subscribership.
Anyone who doesn't need this , or has another copy, can ditch this. If you
don't have a copy, you may want to print it and keep it for future reference.
Kathleen
>
>****We welcome all Lactation professionals to Lactnet...including
>Lactation Consultants and educators, childbirth educators, nurses, LLL
>Leaders, midwives, dietiticians, WIC personnel, MDs, social scientists,
>etc...****** LACTNET is a marvelous vehicle for sharing of professional
>information regarding lactation and case management.
>
>If you are ***not*** a professional involved in the field of lactation, and
>are joining LACTNET to seek advice with your own lactation
situation...Please ***stop**** and know LACTNET is not the place for this
type of subscription. The GOOD NEWS is that a list exists for personal
breastfeeding questions and discussion of extended bf and attachment
parenting. PARENT-L is an alternate listserv list where many families
find breastfeeding information and support. Parent-L is a list for mother
to mother (and father, grandfather, sister, interested bystander, support
for breastfeeding and parenting issues.) Parent-L contains all sorts of
parenting/breastfeeding issue discussions , Many threads that occur in
>LACTNET also occur on PARENT-L, and tend to draw upon personal experience.
>For info on joining PARENT-L, contact [log in to unmask] Personal
>inquiries on LACTNET are ***not accepted*** at this time. If you would like
>to find an IBCLC (Board Certified Lactation Consultant) in your area to
>assist you...you may contact the ILCA (International Lactation Consultant
>Association) office and you will be referred to three IBCLC's in your area.
>
>You can reach ILCA at 200 N. Michigan Ave, Suite 300, Chicago IL 60601;
>phone 312-541-1710 or fax 312-541-1271. ILCA's e-mail address is
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>
>Another good source of breastfeeding assistance is LLLI, La Leche League
>International. LLLI provides volunteer bf counseling, from experienced bf
>mothers. You can contact your local LLL Leader by calling the postpartum
>unit at your local hospital..or LLL can be contacted on the WWW at
>http://www.prairienet.org/llli/
>
> If you post personal notes asking for assistance on LACTNET, your
>subscription will be terminated. We are sorry, but we cannot handle the
>volume of mail that would ensue.
>
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>
>You are joining many people on Lactnet who come from all walks of life,
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>
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>nor is it
>monitored for accuracy.
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>Lactnet, or are already on Lactnet, and are a PAID REPRESENTATIVE of any
>company--ESPECIALLY those of any industry associated with lactation, breast
>pumps, related equipment, or artificial baby milk
>production/pharamaceutical company--you may NOT post notes to LACTNET
>without identifying yourself as an employee of that company. This applies
>to EVERY note you post on LACTNET.
> For example:
>
>"Jane Doe here, and I work for Medela.. or Playtex, ..or Egnell..or
>NewBabyMilk Company. My opinion of this issue is blah blah blah..."
>
> or
>
>"My thoughts are this...and This is why I think it..."
>
>J. Doe, IBCLC
>Paid Rep. of XXX company
>
>NOTE: You do **not** have to identify yourself as a pump rental station
>agent. This applies to the majority of LACTNET subscribers, and since you
>are not paid by the company, you are not their employee , technically.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ****PLEASE NOTE*****
>Penalty for failure to identify your Business affiliation is permanent
>DELETION from LACTNET.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>Please refrain from the injudicious use of brand names. In many cases,
>using a generic term, such as such as cylinder pump, bottle liner,
>rubber/silicone teat or pacifier/dummy, semi-electric breast pump, fully
>automatic intermittent electric breast pump, etc. should suffice to get your
>point across. If you wish to discuss or obtain specific information about
>particular products, you are encouraged to USE PRIVATE EMAIL to do so
>whenever possible.
>
>Please remember that companies and groups may have unidentified
>representatives on LACTNET listening in to see what LCs et al are saying
>about their products. Religious groups, artificial baby milk company reps,
>and authors of an anti-breastfeeding nature have often joined LACTNET . If
>you MUST mention a product, group, or book by name, identify the
>information you are sharing as rumor, clinical experience, hearsay, study
>finding (with reference) when
>you share that information. Be aware that sharing unfounded information may
>give someone cause to take legal action against ***YOU***.
>_____________________________________________________________________
> NETIQUETTE RULES FOR LACTNET
>These rules are taken seriously by the list owners, and any posts that break
>these rules are grounds for immediate termination of Lactnet subscription.
Any
>questions or comments can be sent to Kathleen B. Bruce BSN, IBCLC
>([log in to unmask]) or Kathleen G. Auerbach, Ph.D, IBCLC
>([log in to unmask]). We thank you for your participation, and look forward
>to meeting you all on the LACTNET!. If you want to check out our WWW page,
>check out this address:LACTNET WWW PAGE ADDRESS:
>http://www.mcs.com/~auerbach/lactation.html. It has links to our own
>personal home pages on the WWW in addition. LACTNET's archives are available at
>http://library.ummed.edu/lsv/archives/lactnet.html
>
>PURPOSE OF LACTNET: For Lactation Consultants and other professionals who
>assist breastfeeding mothers and their babies and/or who promote
>breastfeeding to share concerns, information, hints for helping mothers
and babies.
>
>EXPLODER LISTS: Do not use software to explode LACTNET list to others.
>Exploder lists are not allowed here... DO NOT PRINT OFF LACTNET MESSAGES to
>distribute or publish elsewhere without the EXPRESS permission of the author.
>
>CONFERENCE POSTING: Not allowed on Lactnet, please. Send it in to JHL or to
>the GLOBE.
>
>REMEMBER: What you write should be something that you would be willing to
>see printed on the FRONT PAGE OF THE NY TIMES. If you mention a client's or
>a colleague's name, please get permission from them in advance. DO NOT post
>addresses and phone numbers publically. Remember that Lactnet, as with
>other lists, though expressly for professionals, occasionally has other
>members who join without our knowledge.
>
>Please be considerate in your comments. We have people of many countries and
>cultures subscribing to Lactnet. Breastfeeding practices differ from
>culture to culture...lactation assistance techniques also differ from person
>to person...If you wish to avoid embarassment, antagonism, legal redress,
>and similar unpleasantness, BE CAREFUL AND CAUTIOUS about what you say and
>about whom/what!
>
>Naming names in a derogatory way is not acceptable on Lactnet. Neither is
>bashing of one group or another...such as doctors, LLLers, ILCA, WIC
personnel,
>etc. Doing so puts everyone at risk for SLANDER OR LIBEL suits, even if
>the comment made is true. There has already been legal precedent set in
>several cases involving comments made on the "net". We do not want to be
>another example, so please act in an adult fashion. Comments that are not
>appropriate for PUBLIC hearing/reading should be sent by PRIVATE EMAIL. You
>are responsible for your own comments at all times. First time offenders
>will receive a written warning privately. Second time offenders will be
>deleted from the list. No exceptions.
>
>PRODUCT/SERVICES: If you have used a product or service (regardless of what
>it is) and wish to inform others about it, you may do so, but PLEASE do not
>share prices of obtaining same in public messages on LACTNET. This smacks of
>SELLING, and LACTNET is *not* the place for this. Not only is selling not
>our focus, but to do so places the person posting such information and the
server (in this case, LACTNET) and the owners in a potentially litigious
position. None
>of us wants to have to answer to an irate attorney and his/her/its client,
>so please note. Sharing information is one thing; prices/costs is another.
>When discussing the merits of a product or service, please PREFACE YOUR
>REMARKS WITH " IN MY OPINION". This makes it clear that it is your OWN
>opinion, and not that of Lactnet owners, etc...
>**********************************************************************
>One example of an acceptable way to show support for given product:
>
>"I really liked XXX Product/LC TRAINING COURSE/BOOK because....blah blah..
>If you wish information about it, write to [give address for this purpose]."
>
>****************************************************************************
>
>QUOTING FROM LACTNET:
>Occasionally you may see something that someone has posted to LACTNET that
>you may wish to share in some other context, such as in hardcopy in a
>newsletter, etc. To do so, please remember that what you post on LACTNET
>has the effect of being placed on the front page of the NY Times. This means
>you MUST secure written (via e-mail or hard copy) permission of the original
>poster of the message in order to share it in some other context. This is
>both polite and enables you to credit the originator of the message. We,
>the co-owners of LACTNET, cannot enforce this, but we expect that you all
>will honor this official announcement and recommendation. Thank you.
>
>DO's on LACTNET:
>a. share concerns about cases, and ask questions. We have a wealth of
>knowledge here!
>b. share suggestions for solving problems you have encountered
>c. support the work efforts of other LCs and related professionals
>d. cite references. This is helpful for people who want to look up references.
>e. quote MINIMAL amounts from other notes to make your point. EXTENSIVE
>QUOTING is boring and repetitive, and takes up space. It also costs money.
>f. remember that many subscribers are paying PER MESSAGE, so keep it short
>and to the point.
>g. Post NOTES to the WHOLE GROUP to the [log in to unmask] address.
>h. SET YOURSELF NOMAIL if you are going to be away from your mailbox.
>
>DONT'S on LACTNET:
>a. Bad mouth or bash other LCs or other professionals, no matter how high
>your level of aggravation (this has legal implications for the person
>making the
>statement as well as for LACTNET and all recipients of such a message.
>b. Talk up commercial products by brand name obtainable at a profit to
>those who distribute same (this is not an infomercial outlet).
>c. Bad mouth commercial products by brand name ( again, this has legal
>implications).
>d. Talk nasty about other groups than your own (once again, see above). If
>you feel the need to express negativity, do it though email. REMEMBER,
>members of Lactnet come from all places, walks of life, and have different
>affiliations.
>e. Scan pictures or documents of any size and send to our list. Please do
>this through private email. Large files can cause Lactnet to BOMB, and may
>cause us to lose the good graces of our host. Don't attach documents to
>notes going to LACTNET.
>f .Use LACTNET as a resource for mothers needing assistance. LACTNET is NOT
>FOR MOTHER TO MOTHER SUPPORT. It IS for LC to LC support, or Nurse to LC
>support, or MD to IBCLC support.etc. If you have clients who need
>assistance with bf, and you refer them to LACTNET for help, you risk being
>removed from the list. Please feel free to refer clients needing help to
>appropriate local sources. See our WWW page for more info on this.
>g. POST COMPUTER COMMANDS to the [log in to unmask] address. There
>are several hundred subscribers who receive every message that is sent...Use
>the [log in to unmask] address please ...for commands.
>h. Post conference notices or ads on Lactnet
>i. Do not post personal notes to your friend in Cleveland on LACTNET because
>you can't find her e-mail address....PERSONAL NOTES GO via PRIVATE E-Mail.
>
>
>POLICY CONCERNING REMOVAL FROM LACTNET:
>The administrators reserve the right to remove individuals from this list
>under extraordinary circumstances. It is difficult to anticipate every
>reason why someon might be removed from the lists; in general, behavior
>which is substantially disruptive to the list and which is known by the
>perpetrator to be inappropriate may lead to removal. An individual who is
>removed from the lists will be notified of the removal by administrators. if
>he or she wishes to appeal the removal, a poll will be taken of the current
>membership of the list. . If 25% or more of the current membership supports
>reinstatement, the individual will be returned to the list.
>****************************************************************************
>VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE: REGARDING MAILBOX ERRORS AND MAIL DELIVERY
>
>Due to problems with many accounts, all LACTNET are set to DIGEST
>automatically. This means that you will receive LACTNET in compacted form.
>This will give you all LACTNET messages lumped in 300 line increments...and
>will save you money and us error messages. Instead of receiving each
>message separately, you will receive perhaps 3-10 messages in one message.
>If you do NOT wish to have this setting, you may write to
>[log in to unmask] with the command SET LACTNET MAIL. If you do
>this, you must be aware that your mailbox may become MEGA full QUICKLY. If
>you have a limited amount of storage space on your system for mail or if you
>DO NOT check your email frequently, (daily) you may QUICKLY reach your
>capacity. LACTNET can generate up to 100 messages PER DAY. A mailbox can
>become full after 2 days of unread messages.. , If your site generates
>multiple errors, OR if we receive a FULL MAILBOX signal from your provider,
>YOUR SUBSCRIPTION WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY REMOVED FROM LACTNET in order to
reduce error message problems. This kind of thing is a real pain for us, and
>costs us MONEY to boot. EVERYTIME a message bounces out of YOUR full
>mailbox, it lands IN ours. : ( If you do get bumped off because of error
>messages, please feel free to RESUBSCRIBE once your site is functioning .
>
>IF YOU ARE GOING ON VACATION AND WILL BE AWAY and NOT reading messages,
send a command to the [log in to unmask] address that says
>
>SET LACTNET NOMAIL.
>
>When you return, send a command SET LACTNET MAIL and your mail will be
>resumed . To resume the DIGEST function...do a SET LACTNET DIGEST command
>to listserv.
>
>If you are interested in having only a MENU of messages come to you, and
not the actual digests or messages themselves, do a
>SET LACTNET INDEX
>to
>[log in to unmask]
>
>This will get you regular indexes of Lactnet messages, and you may pick and
choose from them and order what you wish to read from Lactnet.
>
>LACTNET subscribers with concerns or questions about the above information
>should direct their concerns/questions/comments to KB ([log in to unmask])
>or KGA ([log in to unmask]). ENJOY!
>
>Yours ,
>
>Kathleen Bruce RN, BSN, IBCLC [log in to unmask]
>Kathleen G. Auerbach Ph.D, IBCLC [log in to unmask]
>
>
Kathleen B. Bruce, BSN, IBCLC, LLLeader, co-owner Lactnet, LLLOL, Corgi-L
LACTNET WWW site: http://www.mcs.com/~auerbach/lactation.html
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