Learned this weekend: "Perfectionism is a disease. Don't strive for it;
strive for excellence." I like that!
Bye,
Marianne Vanderveen IBCLC, Netherlands (and sooo busy that she is adopting
the Pat Young-style: short and to the point... hahaha!)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diane Wiessinger" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LACTNET] lip position
> >I understand the need to create a decent seal, but can't this be done
> >with
> lips that aren't completely rolled outward?
>
>
>
> I'd say the lips aren't important in the least. Provided:
>
> 1. there's good milk transfer
>
> 2. the mother's comfortable (nipples and body)
>
> 3. the baby's comfortable.
>
> I once tried to find experienced mothers with newborns so I could film
> their
> positioning. In my ignorance, I gave up because they all had terrible
> positions, mouth included. In fact, of course, I was seeing the wide
> range
> of normal - children and mothers compensating brilliantly for mouth
> variations, milk variations, body variations.
>
> My favorite was the woman who brought her fat-as-a-sausage baby to me
> because he rolled his lower lip in. "Is he thriving?" "Yes." "Are you
> having any discomfort at all?" "No." "Well then it doesn't matter."
> "Yes,
> but the books all show that lower lip rolled out, and I can't get him to
> roll it out." "Is he thriving?" "Yes." "Are you having any discomfort?"
> "No." "Well then it doesn't matter." I never fully convinced her. As a
> toddler, he was still nursing, still fat as a sausage, still rolling his
> lower lip in.
>
> Of course, if it's a problem, then it's a problem. But take a look at how
> we all hold our pens, and how we're *supposed* to hold them.. My 4th
> grade
> teacher could never get me to do it "right", but 50 years later it's still
> working for me. As Catherine Watson Genna says, "We don't have to be
> perfect, we just have to be good enough."
>
>
>
> Diane Wiessinger, MS, IBCLC, LLLL Ithaca, NY USA
>
> www.normalfed.com
>
>
>
>
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