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Tamara writes:

So  please, stop passing judgment and making mothers feels bad. She does 
not have  to be experiencing what you read in a breastfeeding text book. If 
you are that  concerned and upset about what you are hearing, offer your 
services for free  and come help her out with every feeding.



This sounds like it is directed at one or a few specific IBCLCs. It might  
be better to ask them privately and individually, or provide a forum to get  
a discussion going in person at a chapter meeting perhaps. I don't know 
anyone  that would arbitrarily tell a woman to ignore the information she is 
getting  from HCPs in the hospital without having a clue whether it is 
actually  appropriate or not but there may be local people who do this. I don't 
actually  do "phone consults" meaning I asked to be paid, and give advice 
blind, in  situations like this. If mothers call me, first time on the phone, 
they need  support to make sure their baby is well-fed and hydrated, get that 
baby home and  then have an IBCLC come and evaluate them as an individual 
dyad. I will give  them information they can use til they get home, and I don't 
care if the IBCLC  who sees them is me or not. If they are getting awful 
advice, like "your 24 hr  old baby needs 2 ounces of formula every 3 hours" or 
" your 4 day old with a  bilirubin of 12 needs 3 oz of formula at each 
feeding and you should stop  breastfeeding", then I give them the information 
about norms and how babies  usually behave and what they need, and they can 
apply to what they are seeing  with their own baby. A baby that cannot 
self-regulate, is drugged or  disorganized, is often not able to do what a normal 
baby should be able to do. A  baby whose mother's fluid balance is out of 
whack for days, may not have the  supply he/she needs even if he is able to 
latch and feed. These days I make no  assumptions. There are simply so few  
active, self-regulating, undrugged,  unseparated babies with mothers whose 
bodies have not been manipulated or  augmented or whatever, that I like to make 
sure a baby proves they can "be  normal" under such abnormal circumstances. 
That's why I will provide good  information, but not give advice in these 
situations. They need to know that  without seeing the baby there is a lot we 
can't know and therefore have to  be open to things going on we know nothing 
about.  And I suggest that when  they get home, they should consult an 
IBCLC and make sure they have the #s of  several IBCLCs who serve where they 
live. Sometimes it seems better to just  support a mother by telling her that 
as long as her breasts are being stimulated  appropriately as needed and she 
is protecting her supply, whatever happens in  the hospital can be dealt 
with when she gets home. Sometimes a mother has to do  what the hospital 
suggests so they will "allow"
her to leave and take  the baby home - sometimes we do what we have to do 
as mothers. Mothers can  always go back to the "default setting" of true 
skin-to-skin, protect her  supply, feed her baby in whatever way seems best at 
the time, and move forward  in time. Yes, I guess these things happen though 
since I know you are  sincere in your concern for these moms in these 
situations. I was out for a  while and this was typed before I read Jaye's 
response and then yours.   Now, I guess I would say that I believe that the people 
you want to  reach are not reading LN regularly, and so will not be reached 
by your post.  So... how to proceed? I go back to the idea of providing a 
forum for discussion,  like a round table at a chapter meeting or something so 
people can talk openly  about this and hear from the IBCLC who is being 
discussed. Unless I am the  guilty one, (gasp!) and another idea is if someone 
had an issue about how I  help families, they would call me up, have lunch 
with me, and discuss  it. 
 
Peace,
Judy  

Judy LeVan  Fram, PT, IBCLC, LLLL
Brooklyn, NY,  USA


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