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Renata Oliveira Mangrum <[log in to unmask]>
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I think the way Karleen described is the way to go. If there is too much
information on the slide, then the speaker is almost unnecessary. I have
always believed that the slides (and transparencies back in the day) should
be used to illustrate or emphasize certain points, not to actually deliver
contents. I'm not the best notetaker, but so many people use power points so
that their audience does not have to take notes and the learning becomes
very passive (and sub par). At the same time, the speaker is not engaging
with the audience like they could. (Marianne, I'm not implying that you are
doing this. I'm just generalizing from my experiences)

Instead of selling the handouts, what about selling a recording of your
presentation, just as they do at conferences?

Renata Mangrum, MPH, RD.
http://nurturingnotes.blogspot.com
http://infantfeedinghistory.blogspot.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/renatamangrum


On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Karleen Gribble <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> Marianne,
> I also have been asked this a few times and no, I don't pass on my
> presentations. In my case I usually uses lots of photos of mothers and their
> children and I don't have permission to allow them to be used by anyone
> other than myself. The only exception I've made to this is the infant
> feeding in emergencies presentation I did for WBW- which I was more than
> happy to share.
>
> Karleen Gribble
> Australia
>
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> From: "Marianne Vanderveen-Kolkena" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:53 AM
>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Use by others of your powerpoint-presentations
>
>
>  Hi all,
>>
>> Making a really good pp presentation is, as we all know, a hell of a job.
>> It is not just a couple of slides put together; it is a condensation of
>> the knowledge and expertise you have gained after a lot of hard work
>> (studying as well as working with moms).
>> Some people seem to think that it is quite alright to send you an e-mail
>> with questions like: "Could you please send me your powerpoint? I have to
>> give a presentation and would like to use your work."
>> I really disapprove of this attitude. A ppp is *my* intellectual property.
>> I invested time, energy and money to be able to make it and it is only
>> complete when my story comes with it.
>> Someone who did not do all the studying and the reading and the ruminating
>> of the issue involved, will not be able to hand down the same knowledge as I
>> can, due to my investments.
>> You cannot check all this; people who attended your class and got your
>> handout, can later on do it without even telling you.
>> Even though it is good to know that they want to further disseminate the
>> knowledge you handed them, it doesn't feel right not to be able to make
>> money from it as a pplc and to see people walk away with it.
>> I find this an unethical and disrespectful way of dealing with stuff your
>> colleague drew up. If the organisation doesn't want to pay, how do they
>> think they can have quality training?
>> How do other people deal with it? I can ask her to make the audience clear
>> that it was my material, but hey... if she doesn't have thorough
>> knowledge... how can she hand down my information in the right way?
>> Do I want to be associated with it, if I don't know what she is gonna say
>> about it? No. Do I want to be fully left out of the picture as if she had
>> figured it out all by herself even though she is plagiarizing? No.
>> So... what IS a good way to deal with this...? Any suggestions? No more
>> handouts? Only a text? Sell the handouts afterwards? Probably won't work
>> either...
>> Make her transfer the money of the extra hours she would have to put into
>> making the presentation to me? Call the organisation and offer my training?
>> Pretty bold... ;o)
>> I hope some of you can share their ideas with me. Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Warmly,
>>
>> Marianne Vanderveen IBCLC, Netherlands
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