----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Diane Wiessinger" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:53 PM
Subject: [LACTNET] helpful gizmo - not!


This reminds me of a client years ago who was sliding into pumping for 
bottles.  At her house yet again one day, I asked her if she thought her 
baby (in a crib in her home office) might want to nurse.  She *swung* in her 
office chair - almost a lunge - to look at... the clock.  "No, don't look at 
the clock, look at the baby," I blurted.  She "pumped successfully" for more 
than 6 months.  Sigh.

**Oh, Diane, what a dumm thing to say! Look at the baby? Why should you look 
at such an unreliable thing as a baby to rule your days and routines and 
schedules? The item shown to us would make life so much easier, with all the 
numbers in an orderly sequence. ABM producers will probably have handed the 
gastric emptying times for all their different formula's to the producer, so 
that the machine can be accurately programmed, in order to make sure that 
you will know exactly what your baby needs and when and won't get sued when 
it's older and blames all his psychological problems on your mothering.
I think I'll withdraw from this list; you are all just *so* primitive! LOL

My, my... these are really the most ridiculous things to buy... and it is so 
sad that it is sold out!! How far did we come as humans to get so far away 
from our mammalian origins?
I told about these new routines that were introduced by a government run 
institution about swaddling, regularity, predictability and stimuli 
reduction. Today, one Dutch collegue came up with a wonderful link to a 
statement made by professional psychologist associations/organisations, 
about how these 'rules' interfere with secure attachment. I'll put it on 
Nedlact, Gonneke, so that you (and other Dutch IBCLC's on this list) can see 
it as well, in case they didn't come across it yet. It's in Dutch, so it's 
probably not worth posting here... well, it's a link, so why not, maybe for 
our collegues in South Africa! ;o)
I'm really glad that a turn seems to be on the way to turn this around, 
because it is a growing problem, that the biological destination of children 
(be with mom, at breast) is so often neglected... Hurray, for everything 
that gives a different, more natural perspective. The statement even 
mentions the UN Children's Rights, when it comes to secure attachment and 
not letting baby cry it out.
Here's the link: http://www.babywerk.nl/images/news/MF-211-1202401601.pdf. 
Have a nice read, in your non-primary language! hahaha

Warmly,

Marianne Vanderveen, Netherlands

             ***********************************************

Archives: http://community.lsoft.com/archives/LACTNET.html
To reach list owners: [log in to unmask]
Mail all list management commands to: [log in to unmask]
COMMANDS:
1. To temporarily stop your subscription write in the body of an email: set lactnet nomail
2. To start it again: set lactnet mail
3. To unsubscribe: unsubscribe lactnet
4. To get a comprehensive list of rules and directions: get lactnet welcome