Dear friends,

Actually, I do think most women would be better of if no medical obstetrician would be nearby when 
she gave birth. Normal birth does not need the attendance of a doctor nor need it take place in a 
medical setting. Well trained midwifes (not nurses who specialized, but primarily trained 
midwifes, like for instance in The Netherlands and I think Norway and the UK to name a few) as a stand 
alone profession, should be the ones to monitor pregnant women and select those who happen to really 
need medical assistance and those who don't. 
And, yes, here's the link with breastfeeding: normal breastfeeding does not need to be placed in a 
medical setting and attended to by medically trained persons. Primarily trained LCs can follow and 
monitor and counsel all breastfeeding women and sift those out who do need medical attention.
Placing birthing and breastfeeding women primarily in the care of medically trained persons is 
over-intervening in itself.

Warmly,

Gonneke, IBCLC, LLLL in southern Netherlands

Susan Burger <[log in to unmask]> wrote:<...>
What if I said "birth is a normal physiologic process".  Because birth is a normal 
physiologic process, perhaps we should leave women alone to do this by themselves and 
they would be better off without midwives or obstetricians.

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