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"Ellen Penchuk, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
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Re: Did anyone see Oprah

Thanks for the laugh Barb..you should forward your letter to Oprah!!

Ellen

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Topics of the day:

  1. CHILD mag article about BF
  2. Did anyone see Oprah today?
  3. Radio message...
  4. ILCA at Tarrytown
  5. LACTNET Digest - 8 Oct 2002 - Special issue (#2002-1290)

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Date:    Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:47:28 -0700
From:    "Janet Simpson, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: CHILD mag article about BF

Hi All,

I had a consultation this morning - my clients asked me if I'd like to have
their copy of CHILD magazine - they told me I had to read the article about
LC's...  For those of you who have yet to read this article - you must read
it... IMHO it is horrid!  Not only is the slant towards the LC not a
positive one, but there is some misleading information about BF as well.
(Anyone know which oral antibiotic is used for thrush???  That's a new one
for me...)

Maybe the author was going for some tongue in cheek type of humor, but to me
it was really rather offensive.  The author said she shouldn't have been
surprised by the "eagerness-bordering-on-desperation" she encountered when
she went on rounds with the LC she interviewed - as if the LC was some sort
of deviant who gets some type of illicit thrill out of working with BF
women.  She says that the LC's words to a mom, "I think you're going to be
fine," are a "Mantra".  Somehow that doesn't sound like a positive
description to me.  The author describes a BF support group interaction and
says, the LC "...is there to provide reassurance, but with the subtle
pressure she often exerts I suspect she can sometimes cause as much anxiety
as she alleviates."  The descriptive words the author uses to describe the
LC's comments lead the reader to believe that the LC is a real - well, not
nice person.  I happen to believe (from a note to Lactnet just before the
article came out) that this is in fact not a true description of the LC
interviewed.

At the end of the article the author writes that the LC "...greets each day
with a sense of wonder, seeing herself as a star player in the soap opera of
new motherhood."  I wonder if that is the author's impression or the LC's?
It appears to be the LC's...but...I wonder.

BTW - my clients were NOT impressed with the article.  They told me that I
was nothing like what this author depicted LC's to be.  Hmmm....

Jaye

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Date:    Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:05:39 EDT
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Subject: Did anyone see Oprah today?

I only saw a portion of it but it apparently was a continuation of the theme
of how hard it is to be a mother. She had camera persons visit a new mom (
12
days postpartum) for 24 hrs and video tape her thru the 24 hrs. She
complained about engorgement and having to get the milk out. The baby had a
pacifier in alot of the scenes. The baby cried alot ( it seemed to me). She
tried to bath both the toddler and the baby but then the baby had to nurse
so
she had to give up on the bath.She then had a Peds visit and had to drive
herself with the infant and a toddler. Then she had to come home and fix
dinner for the dad after he worked all day. She complained about nursing
every 2-3 hrs at night and how she never gets any sleep. She spent the
entire
night nursing sessions sitting up and then spent several minutes trying to
burp the baby very vigerously. Oprah gave her a "gift " of 2 months worth of
nanny service so she can sleep thru the night. One pregnant woman in the
audience said that "NO ONE" had told her about this side of things.
I would have loved to be there to tell her:
1. One don't have to sit up at night to nurse-sleep with the baby.
2. Have dad, a neighbor, a friend or grandmother drive mom to the Peds and
entertain the toddler.
3. If dad is smart enough to make a baby, he is smart enough to make a
sandwich for dinner. Why is it that just because he is married he thinks he
is entitled to maid service? What would he do if he was single and coming
home from work?
4. Dad can give baths.This is a continuation of the theme of "if Dad is
smart
enough to create a baby he is smart enough to..."
5. The nanny money probably could be used to pay for once a week
housecleaning service for several months.
6. The paci may be contributing to why you are engorged.
7. Dad could entertain/parent both children at night for a while so mom can
get a nap.

Barb Whitehead, BS, IBCLC
Eastern NC

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Date:    Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:19:33 +0100
From:    "D. McCallister" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Radio message...

You can't imagine how flattered I'd be to be quoted!  Simply tickled!

Debbie McCallister
Louisville, KY


> Date:    Tue, 1 Oct 2002 05:44:58 -0700
> From:    Carole Jernigan <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: radio message response
>
> Debbie,
> WOW and wow again!  Loved your way of comparing women
> who need help with breastfeeding to folks needing help
> with breathing!  This could open a LOT of eyes where I
> work, among both parents and staff...can I take this
> to work with me, please, please?
>
> Carole
> hospital-based LC and IBCLC hopeful (eleven more days)

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Date:    Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:46:01 -0400
From:    Pat A Bucknell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: ILCA at Tarrytown

My friend was able to obtain a room for the conference at Tarrytown at
the conference hotel.  She would be happy to have a roommate. If anyone
is interested, please contact her directly.  Her name is Ellen Morin
[log in to unmask]  She works as an LC in a medium-sized Ohio community.

Thanks,
Pat Bucknell, IBCLC
Avon Lake OH

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Date:    Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:47:02 EDT
From:    Felina Rakowski-Gallagher <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: LACTNET Digest - 8 Oct 2002 - Special issue (#2002-1290)

Kate,
       I saw Dr. Phil a long time back addressing the issue of a Mom who was
nursing a toddler.    He clearly insinuated that she did more for her
emotional needs than what benefits it gave the child.  And he repeatedly
pointed out how it could/would interfere with the couple's intimacy.  That's
the only impression I recall of that episode...Felina

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