Hi Gillian and all,
Like quite a few in the WG-CC, my contribution has been on and off due to over laden schedules.
It is a good point you brought up there about which organizations to label CSOs.
In the last twenty years a confusing array of definitions has been used from non-profits, to non-governmental organizations (NGOs), to community based organizations (CBOs) to civil society organizations (CSOs).
Unfortunately the UN does not entirely help in clearing up this confusion in documents defining the role of civil society.
Because NGOs can be divided into for profit and non-profits and things like grass roots organizations and citizens' committees often are not formally organized as is assumed when we use the term NGO, which generally has the connotation of being a legal entity, the term civil society organization was introduced.
The UN chooses to deal with NGOs in the connotation as referred to above when they speak of accredited organizations for any dealings with any UN body or treaty, something we should bear in mind, yet at the same time because of the broadest possible alliance of groups and individuals to help address corruption we should also look at what the UN defines as the Major Groups of Civil Society.
I have therefore attached Agenda 21, which sets the stage since 1992 pretty much for EVERYTHING which is addressed by civil society and defines how the UN sees the role and interaction with civil society.
Section III Strengthening the Role of Major Groups is the section dealing with civil society.
So it is the Major Groups we should look at and then see how in practice civil society organizations are organized, being legal entity or not, or for profit or not or faith based or not.
Milton Ponson, President
Rainbow Warriors Core Foundation
(Rainbow Warriors International)
Tel. +297 568 5908
PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
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--- On Wed, 10/6/10, Gillian Dell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Gillian Dell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Coalition draft document -- next steps
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 2:14 AM
Hallo Slagjana! Hallo all!!
It seems that a couple of you did not receive the attachment
so I am resending it attached here. I’ll take this chance to write two
additional points about the document:
(1)
As Sion suggested I’d like to try to find a
specialist lawyer to have a look at the document. If you know of one please do
let me know.
(2)
In the attached version I made a small change. The individual
members are now called “associate” members since they don’t
have voting rights.
A QUESTION: Which groups do we want to include in the term “civil
society organisation?”. Already included are trade unions and NGOs. I
recommend that we also include research institutes, colleges and universities.
I recommend that we don’t as a rule include professional associations,
but may do so in special cases. And I tend to think we should not include real
foundations. It would be good to hear your views on these and any other
organisations forms that you think we should consider. I have received requests
for membership from a university and from an organisation that has “foundation”
in its name but says that it is not one in fact.
Feedback would be much appreciated by Monday if possible.
Best,
Gillian
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Transparency International Secretariat
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-----Original Message-----
From: Coalition WG on Coordination Committee
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Slagana Taseva
Sent: 06 October 2010 09:07
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Coalition draft document -- next steps
Hi Gillian,
Many thanks to you!
I'm trying to catch up now by re-reading more thoroughly all the
documents
you have sent.
Sorry for not being very active lately but it was a very busy time for
me. I
was following the developments in the coalition and I'm grateful for
your
dedication and congratulate you all for the developments. Please send
the
attachment you have promised.:))
Sincerely,
Slagjana
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gillian Dell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: Coalition draft document -- next steps
Dear all,
I hope you're all well. I'm sending you now by attachment to this
message
the full draft of the constitutive document for your review. A few
edits to
the first section have been introduced using tracking and in the second
part
tracking has also been used for text requiring special attention.
Many thanks to Toby Mendel for his assistance in preparing this draft
of the
document.
Looking forward to your feedback.
All the best,
Gillian
________________________________
From: Coalition WG on Coordination Committee
on behalf of Gillian Dell
Sent: Thu 30/09/2010 14:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Coalition draft document -- next steps
Dear all,
Many thanks to all who sent in comments on the revised second segment
of the
consolidated document. Those inputs will be taken into account in a
final
draft to be circulated to this Working Group for final comments next
week
prior to circulating it to the whole Coalition.
One question that could benefit from a round of discussion is the
voting
rights of individual members. These are curtailed in the current draft
because the Coalition is seen primarily as a Coalition of CSOs and also
because CSOs tend to represent more people than individuals do. Any
thoughts
on that?
The proposed next steps are as follows:
(1) Friday 1 October 2010 : I'll send the
Working Group the proposed
draft first section of the document for one further week of discussion.
Toby
Mendel is kindly helping with the re-drafting.
(2) Tuesday 5 October: I'll send the Working
Group the revised second
section for consideration until the end of next week.
(3) During the week of 11 October: I'll
circulate the draft document to
the whole Coalition for two weeks consideration ( to 25 October)
(4) During 11 - 25 October: I'll circulate to
the Working Group a
proposed new membership application form and a first draft of Rules of
Procedure. I'll also circulate some questions and ideas about next
steps in
terms of when and how to hold elections.
Sound ok?
Best,
Gillian
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Gillian Dell
Programme Manager, Conventions
Transparency International Secretariat
Alt-Moabit 96
10559 Berlin
Germany
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From: Coalition WG on Coordination Committee
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CorruptionWatchAruba
Sent: 21 September 2010 14:24
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Subject: current geographical distribution of UNCAC Coalition members
What is the current geographical distribution of UNCAC Coalition
members.
The member list on the web site is as we know incomplete.
The reason I am asking is because I feel Central and South
America and the
Caribbean are very
underrepresented in the UNCAC Coalition, yet these same
regions show some of the highest dual statistics of corruption and
human
rights violations.
And what happened to Djilali Hadjadj seems to happen every single day
in a
lot of countries in this region, so much so it is going increasingly
unnoticed and unpublished.
Milton Ponson, President
Rainbow Warriors Core Foundation
(Rainbow Warriors International)
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PO Box
1154 , Oranjestad
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