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>...and Stravinsky's remark that he lacked the gift of melody was surely
>a missile thrown from inside a glass house.

I do not see why, Stravinsky, to my knowledge at least, was far from being
a great critic of Beethoven.  As far has I know, no composer is prepared
do demolish a genius such has our dear Ludwig.  And has far has I am
concerned, my arguments have all failed to make my point clear, so I
will retreat.  Actually maybe you can help me figure out where my dislike
of certain Beethoven pieces comes from.  I am a professional musician, a
chambrist at that.  I enjoy very much playing the Beethoven quartets, it
is one of the things I enjoy the most, yet listening to them on a non
technical basis bores me...  It is also well know by now that I do not like
the violin concerto....  Please give me your insight, I am curious.

Nicolas