[log in to unmask] writes: >...and Stravinsky's remark that he lacked the gift of melody was surely >a missile thrown from inside a glass house. I do not see why, Stravinsky, to my knowledge at least, was far from being a great critic of Beethoven. As far has I know, no composer is prepared do demolish a genius such has our dear Ludwig. And has far has I am concerned, my arguments have all failed to make my point clear, so I will retreat. Actually maybe you can help me figure out where my dislike of certain Beethoven pieces comes from. I am a professional musician, a chambrist at that. I enjoy very much playing the Beethoven quartets, it is one of the things I enjoy the most, yet listening to them on a non technical basis bores me... It is also well know by now that I do not like the violin concerto.... Please give me your insight, I am curious. Nicolas