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David Smith <[log in to unmask]>
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ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology Centers
Incorporated, a worldwide network of science museums and related institutions.
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Doh!

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Rob Fox <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology Centers
> Incorporated, a worldwide network of science museums and related
> institutions.
>
> *****************************************************************************
>
> Dave,
>
> We have 4 FT educators. You left out Jen P.
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Informal Science Education Network
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:22 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Assistance needed by new user
>
> ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology Centers
> Incorporated, a worldwide network of science museums and related
> institutions.
>
> ****************************************************************************
> *
>
> Jeff is right, but not particularly helpful.  Here's some bones:
>
> We are a small center in a 3-year old 30,000 net square foot building.  We
> have 12,000 square feet of exhibits.  We have a full time staff of 18 and
> an
> annual budget of $1.8M, 60-70% of which comes from our visitors ($10 for
> adult, $8 for child/senior/military).  In a metropolitan area with an aging
> population (median age > 40) of ~750K, we have 80K annual visitors, about
> 50% school kids, 50% walk-ins and events.  We have 1300 members ($75/year).
> Our executive director get paid $110K (you can find this on Form 990s on
> guidestar.com) and we have 4 directors under him: Associate Director/ Dir
> of
> Education (classroom educators, outreach, exhibit content), Director of
> Professional Development (teacher programs - that's me), Director of
> Business Operations (facilities, financial management, gift shop, and floor
> staff), and Director of Development (fundraising, grants, and marketing).
> Education has three full time educators - one is manager of all the ed
> programs, one runs summer camp, and one runs scout and other overnight
> programs, and all three teach classes and outreach programs.  We have three
> full-time staff in development, 2 in the business office, and one in
> reservations/front desk we have a number of part timers in all areas.  Our
> directors make in the range of $50-65K, the full time staff are in the
> range
> of $30K and part-time educators make $8-10/hour.  I don't know what the
> other part-times make.
>
> Don't underestimate the capital for the exhibits - undercapitalizing
> exhibits was our big mistake going into this building  figure 10-20% of
> building costs should got to exhibits.  We spent $6M on our building alone,
> but only about $100K-200K on exhibits, which was not nearly enough.  A good
> exhibit cost $25K-$100K, which is something funders are not going to
> understand or believe and you are going to have to educate them that
> exibits
> are essentially custom items, handbuilt, and require incredible durability
> (10 million to 100 million duty cycles before failure).
>
> Dave Smith
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Yvonne Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology Centers
> > Incorporated, a worldwide network of science museums and related
> > institutions.
> >
> >
>
> ****************************************************************************
> *
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > My name is Yvonne Smith and I am the Supervisor (City job title) of
> > Discovery Science & Outdoor Center in Ocala, FL.  I am under the gun and
> > need some help.
> >
> > We have a new City Manager and I have until Friday to put together a
> > preliminary proposal for a new site that the City will be purchasing.
> > It will be home to either our science center or a community recreation
> > center.   Along with our vision for the building, I must educate him on
> > science centers in general.  I am putting together a Power Point
> > presentation and I'm lacking the following information based on a 32,000
> > square foot building:
> >
> > a typical organizational chart for science centers
> > job descriptions and pay scales for staff
> >
> > Up to this point, we have been a " center" under the Recreation Division
> > and had to fit those job descriptions and pay categories. This move
> > would now allow us to function as our own division and as a true science
> > center.  It would also help tremendously with how we are perceived in
> > the community.  It is an incredible opportunity for us and I appreciate
> > any assistance you can offer.
> >
> > ***********************************************************************
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> the
> > Informal Science Education Network please visit www.astc.org.
> >
> > Check out the latest case studies and reviews on ExhibitFiles at
> > www.exhibitfiles.org.
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>
> --
> David L. Smith
> Da Vinci Science Center
> Allentown, PA
> http://www.davinci-center.org
>
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> was
> listening, everything must be said again.  -- Andre Gide
>
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-- 
David L. Smith
Da Vinci Science Center
Allentown, PA
http://www.davinci-center.org

Please consider the environment before printing this email.

Everything that needs to be said has already been said. But since no one was
listening, everything must be said again.  -- Andre Gide

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