While on the subject of ceramics
I am looking for detailed reports or books
On the different patterns and colors of 19th Century transfer prints
Any information on where to obtain with title name, author and publisher
appreciated
Thanks
Kris Oswald 


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From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
paul.courtney2
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:52 AM
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Subject: Re: To glue or not to glue, that is the question...

Having counted, weighed, worked out rim percentages etc of tens, 
probably hundreds, of thousands of sherds, added them, seriated then, 
cross linked sherds from different contexts etc and expounded on 
depostional processes and the sociology amd macro-economics of pots -I 
tend to see them as sherds which is  a little sad and is why I hate the 
b**** things while still quite liking whole pots which connect to 
manufacturing methods, useage etc. So fetishist or not (Adrian) I am 
shortly off to Holland where I will ignore the Sex musem, red light 
districts and brown cafes  to overdose on hundreds of whole pots from 
Dutch cesspits - pure undiluted erotic fetishism.


paul courtney
Leicester
UK

Bob Genheimer wrote:

>For museums its a different story.  We must glue to produce vessels for
exhibition.  Sure, they take up more space in storage, but it clearly
shows that we can reconstruct the smallest pieces into what they once
were, and each sherd retains its provenience.  The shelf life of a B72
glued vessel is about 10 years, then they tend to degrade and fail.
Volunteers then clean (acetone) and re-glue the vessels.
>
>Years ago, I remember an SHA conference where a pottery historian
showed image after image of whole Carolina stoneware.  In the middle of
the talk, he stopped and apologized that "we could break them into
sherds in our minds if it made us feel more comfortable."  But, I tend
to look at the sherds in my mind as a vessel, not as parts.
>
>Bob Genheimer
>George Rieveschl Curator of Archaeology
>Cincinnati Museum Center
>1301 Western Avenue
>Cincinnati, Ohio 45203
>513-455-7161
>
>
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>From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
Carol
>Serr
>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:19 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: To glue or not to glue, that is the question...
>
>
>That's what we do too, since 'it's all about as few boxes as possible
on
>the shelf' (since they cost $600 ea. to curate).  :o)
>Besides, I get enough dirty looks from the Higher Power if I am
'caught'
>spending ('wasting') time co-mending pieces; permanently gluing would
be
>out of the question (and way out of budget).   But, obviously
>universities, and such...probably have the luxury of volunteer/student
>labor...and such...so may not have the money issue.
>
>Now...what kind of tape do you use?  :o)
>
>Ah hem...God made the bits?  Or do you mean...as in particles of sand
>and clay...etc.?  Ha ha.
>
>PS.  Really didn't mean to send my comment to Nate, to the whole List
>yest. Oops.
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: praetzellis [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
>>Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:10 PM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: To glue or not to glue, that is the question...
>>
>>
>>Shockingly enough, we don't glue stuff back together!
>>We tape things temporarily for photos and to get MNIs, then we 
>>pull em appart when we're done. It uses up less space in the box.
>>
>>Offhand, I can't really think of a reason to glue stuff -- 
>>even for exhibit purposes -- it just encourages artifact 
>>fetishism. I prefer the stuff in bits the way God made it.
>>
>>Adrian Praetzellis
>>Sonoma State University
>>
>>    
>>
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