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Wayne;

Can you check the site. The pdf is coming as a blank document.

Martin

>Eric,
>
>First, I think our incentive is that you can go to the 
>museum/science center and see an exhibit you did.  We may have 
>contests and as I mention somewhere on the site, special hours.  If 
>we get nothing then that's ok too, I am just offering people the 
>opportunity. I have been in discussion with Dave Gilbert and we both 
>believe there are people who want to hack with stuff.  Remember this 
>open to anyone.  I do think there are people out there who are 
>interested in messing around with digital stuff.
>
>Second, the code from producers is not open source, the exhibit is 
>open source.  IN other words we are working to make "plug ins" or 
>sections easily taken out and replaced with different parts.  I 
>think the difference here is we are trying to organize the number 
>and have a large number.
>
>Third, as we develop the exhibits further I do thing what you can do 
>and make will be a more defined challenge. But we launched this at 
>this stage so participants might actually shape the original exhibit 
>development and production as well.
>
>Wayne
>
>
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>Hey Wayne:  Remember our experiment with doing this four years ago 
>with Connections?  It was pretty fruitful, yielded some good ideas. I 
>think you participated some, maybe not.  We had 20 or 30 folks from 
>all around the world for a little while. We also thought the idea of 
>open source exhibition development would be useful, but there are a 
>few caveats:
>
>1) There is so much stuff out there for people to do that you need to 
>create some sort of incentive.  We offered ipods, as I recall, for 
>the most substantive poster and the most frequent poster (they turned 
>out to be the same person).
>2) Is the stuff you are creating really open source?  Is Onomy going 
>to create something under the "copyleft" license ( http://www.gnu.org/
>copyleft/copyleft.html )? I know that several of the most innovative 
>pieces we commissioned for connections we licensed from the artist 
>under traditional copyright rules. They certainly don't allow for the 
>pieces to be given away and for the source code to be modified/added 
>to, as is required by the open source movement.  From the artists 
>point of view, the R&D they did for a piece in Connections was part 
>of their stock in trade for the next piece that they might do.
>3) We gave specific challenges.  For example, we wanted to create an 
>"analog analogy" of emergent systems.  Some cool ideas came up (we 
>tried building a series of pole magnets mounted in an array).
>
>The best thing about this approach is that we were introduced to some 
>good creative minds who were willing to share ideas, but it fell far 
>short of the "open source" model that has had a few runaway 
>successes.  There is a whole fascinating dynamic to those successes 
>that has been explored in some of the literature on emergent systems 
>and "tipping points."  I could dig up some references about the 
>social dynamics of open source development if you are interested.
>
>See you in a couple of days!
>
>
>Eric Siegel
>Executive VP
>     Programs and Planning
>NY Hall of Science
>47-01 111th Street
>Queens, NY 11368
>www.nyscience.org
>
>On Oct 12, 2005, at 4:03 PM, WAYNE LABAR wrote:
>
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>>  Hello all,
>>
>>  As I hope to see many of you at the upcoming conference, I am able 
>>  to provide a link to a new project that has been initiated.  This 
>  > project is called the Exhibit Commons
>>
>>  Information can be found at our new site (some bugs still being 
>>  worked on) which is:
>>
>>  www.exhibitcommons.org
>>
>>  The idea, taken from the phenomena that is occurring across the 
>>  world, is to open up some of the exhibits we are developing and 
>>  allow the general public to develop, design, create an imagine new 
>>  ways of operating, new content, whole new directions. In other 
>>  words allow the public to play with our toys. Rather than run from 
>>  the power that the general public now has at their fingertips we 
>>  hope to embrace the fact that we live in a world that has the power 
>>  to interpret what we do. Through the Exhibit Commons we hope to 
>>  offer a chance to work with This new energy.
>>
>>
>>  Although the exhibits in the Commons are Liberty Science Center 
>>  exhibits now, we are looking for other science centers and museums 
>>  who would like to experiment with This concept. We hope to make the 
>>  site a nexus of links to things such as This. Since many of our 
>>  exhibits are part of our expansion it will be a couple of years 
>>  till This really sees the exhibition floor, but we hope to engage 
>>  the public and field in making it work from the very get go - i.e. 
>>  right now.
>>
>>  I look forward to your comments which can be emailed to me 
>>  directly. Be aware I get the ASTC Listserv in digest form so I 
>>  don't see entries very quickly.
>>
>>  Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>>  Wayne J LaBar
>>  Vice President, Exhibitions and Theaters
>>  Liberty Science Center
>>  251 Phillip Street
>>  Liberty State Park
>>  Jersey City, NJ 07305
>>
>>  voice: 201.451.0006 x-347
>>  fax: 201.451.7046
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