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Henya KnitMammy <[log in to unmask]>
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I remember the same advise from Russia. Including the bit about the bladder
infections.
Actually very warm showers were recommended to help remove milk manually.
I also remember compresses of very hot towels applied. It was painful, but
very efficient if you do not have a pump, or if the breasts are rock hard.
On the other hand I would be a concerned about a potential damage to the
milk ducts, so I am not recommending this treatment in any way.

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On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Rachel Myr <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Believe it or not, women in Norway are advised to use heat for this, in the
> form of scarves around their upper bodies or wool underwear, and they are
> often sent to take hot showers and 'massage' their breasts though the exact
> technique is not well described.  It works approximately as well as doing
> nothing, i.e. the engorgement eases up after a couple of days.
>
> RPS is becoming widespread since Ammehjelpen and the midwifery journal
> published a translation of one of Jean's early pieces about it some 7 years
> ago, and a summary of the article was included in an appendix in the
> Norwegian version of the BF triage tool.   Since it deals with the
> engorgement itself, of course it relieves the discomfort too.
>
> There is a very strong belief here that cold causes mastitis.  Even sitting
> in a cold draft can bring it on.  Sitting on cold ground is also believed to
> cause bladder infections.  A lot of us might be more inclined to blame a
> pathogen in a place it doesn't belong for both conditions, but here a woman
> wouldn't dare take the risk of mastitis from icing down her nipples.
>  Cultures are different.
>
> There is almost no research on the treatment of engorgement or its
> concomitant discomfort in breastfeeding mothers, which is remarkable when
> one considers how many women are plagued with it, and how many small
> problems turn into big ones when complicated by engorged breasts.  Cabbage
> leaves have been shown to be more effective than nothing, and synthetic
> oxytocin nasal spray has not been shown to have any effect on on
> engorgement.  Apart from that, it's all wide open.
>
> Rachel Myr
> Kristiansand, Norway
>
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