Many thanks to those who responded to my request for ideas on Apistan strips as well as ideas on how to make life easier for separating "welded together" upper and lower hive bodies. Actually, I think I did quite well. Instead of fighting the whole body, I removed about 4 frames from the middle of the upper body leaving 3 frames on each side. I then removed the upper body with much less resistance and it was really quite easy. Thanks again to all who were helpful. Gordon ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]