Hi All I move my bees around quite a bit from time to time and have noticed that the following tips help (gleaned from old books on tropical beekeeping with a different race of bees). If one seals a strong hives up one damages brood present in it as the bees raise the hive temperature in reposnes to the excess carbon dioxide that accumulates. What I do is as follows - I lift the lid of each hive and smoke it heavily. This gives one about twenty minutes before the bees realise something is going on. I pack all smalll hives as is, with entrances pointing back and forwards alternately. Then for larger hives I put a super with no frames in it on the hive body. I fire the smoker up nicely and put it near the front of the vehicle with the lid on after giving each hvie a few good toots of smoke. The reason for this method - I found that if the bees were not smoked they would attack me firstly, each hive giving at least thrity night crawler stings (the worst) and then they would cover the outside of the bee box and begin an interhive meaning when one gets to the other end there are thousands of dead bees covering the bottom of the truck. In this way I have found it to be no problem moving bees reasonably long distances along bumby dirt tracks at night. It also helps to move during a cold front or similar climatic drop in temperature and to have a vehicle with shot shock absorbers. Keep well Garth Garth Cambray Camdini Apiaries 15 Park Road Grahamstown Apis mellifera capensis 6139 South Africa Time = Honey If you are not living on the edge you are taking up too much space!!