Hi All In our lab we have some interesting work being done on membranes. A traditional membrane foulds because the downward pressure on it basically just forces little globs that cant get through to block the pores. o o o Golobs - - - - - - membrane -o-o-o--- result with downward pressure. If however you build a filter which is tubular, consisting of a long tube which has flow along it, or pressure downwards on it, the flow dislodges the particles. I o I o I o I Hence if you have a tube, the downward flow will dislodge jams into the membrane/filter and you get better filtration. Breweries commonly use such filtration, as do fruit juice producers who use clarified grape juice as a base. A small scale system such as this could be made by taking a plastic cloths basket, filling the inside with your strainer and then placing the whole thing in a barrel - if honey is poured into it the honey strains out. I have built a system like this in a large drum, and have painted the drum black. On top of this I place a seal (as in something to stop other things getting in, not the little mammal - not sure which is spelt which way?, and then leave it in a sunny spot. After about four hours it proccesses a full 'load' which for me is ten supers. As out drought ends I plan to build more of these as they definitely speed things up, and I pay nothing for using the sun - something we have a lot of here in South Africa. Hope this helps Keep well Garth Garth Cambray Camdini Apiaries Grahamstown Apis mellifera capensis Eastern Cape Prov. South Africa Time = Honey After careful consideration, I have decided that if I am ever a V.I.P the I. may not stand for important. (rather influential, ignorant, idiotic, intelectual, illadvised etc)