I think that people get much more brave on the Internet than in person. Its the same with driving. If you accidentally cut someone off on the road, you usually get the finger as well as a long line of cuss words. However If you accidentally cut off someone with a shopping cart, the "victim" is usually much more forgiving and gracious. It is easy to be tough from a distance. I feel sorry that some on the list are irritated by the new bee keepers. However, I feel that both may be to blame. New bee keepers should do some research before posting simple questions, but as a newbie myself I found you can read many books and some times your questions are just not answered. It is in these situations that a experienced person can be a very valuable resource. To the ol' timers on the list: Thank you to those of you who are willing to help out us who are new to bee keeping. If you are irritated by the simple questions, delete them and move on (or join best of BEE-L). I see no reason for hostility. Personally I have found many people on the list who are willing to go out of their way, and not only answer my questions but add other helpful tips. I for one am very appreciative of these folks and find this list to be a great resource of knowledge. Sorry to ramble, but cant we all learn to play nice? Rett Thorpe Salt Lake City I really hope that this post does not stir up another huge discussion