(Wal;ter patton) >> Interesting this un approved use of chemicals by the very rightous >> kiwi bee keepers. In the USA the use of chemicals that are not labeled >> and approved for a particular uses is illegal and punisable. What >> other fast and loose ways are practiced down under. Eat American. (Nick Wallingford) >Oh, come on, Walter. Read the post! It said absolutely *nothing* >about beekeepers using Mavrik. ... Yeah. Perhaps, Wal;ter, you need to re-read the appropriate paragraph: : What's interesting to me in all of this, however, is that Mavrik has so far : not been registered for use on either of these crops as a post-blossom ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : (developing fruit) spray. I have been told by someone here in New : Zealand the reason is that no acceptable residual levels have been ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : established on fruits and vegetables. I presume this is only because the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : chemical hasn't gone through the long and involved registration process. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ Nothing about _any_ actual use of Mavrik as a post-blossom spray. We Kiwis are very concerned about the state not only of our honey industry but also our fruit and veges. Our overseas marketing successes were not obtained by allowing shoddy production practices. The "use of chemicals that are not labeled and approved for a particular uses (sic) is illegal and punisable (sic)" in New Zealand also. If by " very rightous (sic)" you mean we usually abhor "fast and loose ways" -- guilty as charged. But isn't that exactly what you're doing? If you have _solid _ evidence of "other fast and loose ways ... practiced down under" then tell it to the appropriate authorities, not a newsgroup which is doing an excellent job of disseminating knowledge to ALL apiarists (with access to a modem). I might remind you, with no slur on the rest of our USA beekeeping brethren, that our really big apiary problem in New Zealand is "_American_ foulbrood". Incidentally, a New Zealander is a Kiwi: our _bird_ is a kiwi. There are no kiwi beekeepers, "rightous" or not. Now shaddup. Philip Hinton. Palmerston North, New Zealand. (Opinions given not necessarily those of Massey University)