Tim, Mike I have gotten some packages with ARS-Y-C-1 (Yugo) queens from Walter Kelley and they have been quite satisfactory. Two hives established in the last week of May this year produced 3 shallows full of nice honey by late August here in Virginia. Onr hive set up last year and overwintered produced 5 full shallow supers -- equal to an Italian hive ten feet away. the bees are quite gentle and easy to work, but so are my Italians. I really like both strains. FWIW Fred According to Michael L. Wallace: > > At 08:17 9/21/96 -0600, you wrote: > >---------------------- Information from the mail header ----------------------- > >Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology <[log in to unmask]> > >Poster: Tim Channell <[log in to unmask]> > >Subject: Re: Carniolans - "Old World," "New World," "Yugos," HELP! > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >At 08:20 PM 9/20/96 -0400, you wrote: > >>Hello! > >> > >>I am quite new to beekeeping; in fact, I won't even have my first hives until > >>the spring. I have heard a lot about Carniolans, and am very interested in > >>starting with that type of bee because of their reputation for gentleness. > >> However, now that I've been researching this bee, I find that there are "Old > >>World," "New World," and Yugoslavian Carniolans. What's the difference? I > >>get very different answers from each of the various apiaries I have called, > >>all saying that their bees, of course, are best. > >> > >>Also, how does the gentleness of the Carniolans compare to the Buckfast bee, > >>in which I am also very interested, and the "Midnite" hybrid bee? > >> > >>Thanks in advance for your assistance! > >> > >>Mary Caldwell > >>Benicia, CA > >> > > > >-------------------------- > >I would be interested in knowning which apiaries sell the Carniolans and > >Buckfast. Do any of you bee buddies known? Thanks, Tim - El Paso, Texas > >Tim Channell > > > > Don't know about the Carniolans, but B. Weaver Apiaries, in Navasota, Texas, > raises the Buckfasts. > > > Cheers, > > > Mike Wallace > Sar Shalom Apiary > McKinney, Texas USA > "Out of the heart, the mouth speaks." >